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Nicolai Helius CC

BM Bike Test All-mountain, all-round full suspension, German style


Posted: 9 February 2006
by Mike Davis

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  • Nicolai Helius CC
  • £1,550 (frame and shock)
  • 4-5in travel all-round FS bike
  • Custom options

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German manufacturer Nicolai is a fairly small outfit, but it has an enormous range of bikes covering pretty much everything you can imagine from the Argon Road to the mental internal-gearbox Nucleon TST downhiller. They've all got a distinctively engineered aesthetic in common, though. Compared to some of Nicolai's work, the "all-mountain" 4-5in travel Helius CC is relatively conventional-looking, but the looks belie the performance...

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Purposeful profile

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Travel is adjustable from 88 to 129mm

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Now that's a replaceable dropout

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Unbraced stays mean plenty of room

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Jez Reid gives the Helius some welly

Frame

Nicolai has a reputation for building frames that almost transcend mere engineering and become something approaching art. And no, we can't believe we just seriously typed that either. But the Helius has lots of neat aesthetic touches that make it distinctively a Nicolai without affecting function, like the elliptical cutaways in the shock linkage that are mirrored in the chainstay yoke. And of course lots of bits that achieve a kind of beauty just by being unrelentingly functional, like the straight run of bridgeless, square section seatstay all the way from six-bolt replaceable dropout to shock linkage.

The frame is made from Easton Ultralite 7005 aluminium tubing, with a slimmed-down head tube up front and refreshingly conventional down, top and seat tubes elsewhere. No flared bits, no gussets and no hydroforming, which these days actually makes the Helius stand out from the crowd somewhat. The four-bar rear suspension assembly is fixed to the front triangle at a pivot behind the bottom bracket and one neatly integrated into the top tube. A welded plate chainstay yoke gives plenty of tyre clearance (although it does tend to collect it on top) and connects to square-section stays. At the other end is a clevis-style Horst link and the aforementioned replaceable dropout. The non-drive-side dropout is quite interesting (and it's not often you see "interesting" and "non-drive-side dropout" in the same sentence...) - it's got an extra-deep slot designed to accept a Rohloff Speedhub without having to use a clamp-on torque arm. The slight downside of this is that it makes getting the back wheel in a bit fiddlier than usual, but it's not really a big deal.

The seatstays are also square-section tubing and follow a direct course from dropout to shock linkage. There are no bridges on them, which means pots of mud room above the tyre. There's a decent amount to the sides, too. Nicolai claim that 2.3in is the maximum tyre size but there was enough room around the 2.3in Nokian fitted that we reckon you could sneak something a whisker larger in there. To look at the unbraced stays you'd think that the back end would exhibit a degree of unwanted flex, but no-one who rode the Helius detected any. A range of shock mount positions on the linkage deliver between 88 and 129mm (3.5-5in) of travel from a 50mm stroke shock and thus adhering to our favourite low-leverage principles even in the longest-travel setting.

Geometry is fairly short for the apparent size of the bikes. The test bike was a Medium, which measures just under 19in centre-to-top but only has a 22.5in top tube. The angles are quite interesting, too. The quoted numbers have a 69.1° head angle, which is fairly relaxed, and a 73.7° seat angle, which is unusually steep. That's with a slightly shorter fork than the Marzocchi Marathon fitted to the test bike. So the apparently short frame is actually because the seat's a bit further forward than usual, not because the bike is actually short - stand up and it feels longer than the numbers suggest. The effect of all this is to put your weight when seated a bit further forward than usual, but we're getting ahead of ourselves here.

Nicolai bikes are made to order in Germany, which means that if the standard spec doesn't quite suit you for some reason, you can always specify custom lengths and angles. You'll have to pay an extra £200 for the privilege, though. There are lots of other custom tweaks you can make when you order, including a range of standard colours and a load of extra-cost optional colours, anodising, camouflage paint jobs, chrome decals, extra bosses, different cable routing, a lightweight kit with magnesium linkages, titanium hardware and a slimmed-down, non-Rohloff friendly dropout or pretty much anything else you can think of.

The stock frame with a DT shock weighs 2.8kg (6.2lb). The test bike came in at just under 28lb complete.

Components

Nicolai doesn't do complete bikes, so you can put what you like on your Helius. It's designed for 100-125mm forks - adjusting the rear travel also drops the BB height so if you want to keep things on an even keel it's worth matching the travel at both ends. The test bike came with a selection of middling-sturdy bits - Hope stem and headset, Easton bars, SDG I-Beam seat and post, Race Face X-Type cranks, Marzocchi Marathon fork, DT hubs, Mavic rims, Nokian tyres, Hope Mono Mini brakes and SRAM X-9 transmission. It all worked just fine, although the fork's not one of our favourites - it's fiddly to set up because the air valve is underneath the TST compression damping knob and you have to spin it to the locked-out position to adjust the air pressure, then take the pump adaptor out and turn the knob to fully open to check the sag, then if it's wrong go back to locked out, put the pump and adaptor in... You get the idea. It seemed to exhibit a degree of fore-aft twang, too, which may have passed unnoticed on lesser frames but was highlighted by the solidity of the rest of the bike.

Ride

A whole bunch of people rode this bike, and everyone loved it. At rest it looks a bit slack at the front, but that steep seat angle pushes you a bit forward on to the fork and keeps the front end biting in turns. It never feels sloppy or wallowy and it's easy to keep the speed up. And the Helius punches above its weight on the lumpy stuff, too - if things start getting interesting, just hang back and let the relaxed front end and supple back end suck it all up. The generally low leverage ratio makes for an impressively well-mannered suspension performance - it's pretty hard to make the Helius lose its composure. Riders commented that the rear suspension was "invisible" - you can't really tell that it's there except that you can see bumps that you're not feeling. But it doesn't get in the way if you need to put the power down, managing the neat trick of feeling pingy and plush at the same time.

The bike came with a DT rear shock with a (rarely-used) lockout lever. We also tried it with a new RockShox Pearl shock with Motion Control gubbinses in it, which we rather liked. This isn't a bike that punishes shocks, though. Indeed, it tends to flatter them - we'd be surprised to come across a current shock that didn't feel perfectly OK in a Helius. It's a measure of the stiffness of the back end that there's no discernible difference between RockShox's conventional shock bushings and DT's spherical ones. Which of course also means that clever spherical bushings are pretty much redundant here.

Some riders found the front end a bit high, but that's largely down to setup. On the whole this is one of those fairly rare bikes that everyone immediately liked, regardless of what they were used to riding. It's a lovely thing, and very versatile. And there's even a special "travel" version with an extra plate at the head tube - take the back wheel out, unbolt the seatstays, fold the back end forward and bolt them to the headtube and presto - you're frame's half the size and ready to pack into a compact bag...

Beautifully made, brilliant ride, versatile, solid, light, looks good

Rohloff-friendly dropout a little awkward


Verdict

This is the most inspiring bike we've ridden for ages. It's a true all-rounder and manages to be as supple as anything else without taking all the fun out of things. It's clearly on the pricey side but it's no more expensive than rival offerings from the likes of Turner or Santa Cruz, assuming that you can resist the lure of the options list. Superb.


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Dont see the angles are a big deal as a 5 Spot Turner are 69 HA and 73.5 SA and 0.5 " longer top tube. An Orange 5 is 70 and 74 but in real life more like the Turner with a 205 mm C to A fork.
I think the main thing with the steep seat tube is that it swings the bb back and ones weight forward, it also stops the riders weight slopping off the back of the bike on hitting a bump going uphill, which happens with slacker angles eg 71 SA.
I see there is no real reason to make the angles of a xc/ttrail bike very different from a Hardtail xc bike ie 69-70 HA and 73-74 SA
Posted: 09/02/2006 17:42

The BB doesn't swing back - the rear wheel's in the way ;-) It pushes the rider's weight forward, though, yes.
Posted: 10/02/2006 08:55

I rode this very bike and liked it emensly to. The angles are slightly unusual when you first get on it but as soon as you are in the woods they make perfect sence. My only other thought was that the bb was a little high when matched to the head angle it could have been even better in the twisty stuff if it was maybe .25 of an inch lower. I also had trouble getting the rear shock to feel quite right it either seemed to pack down or be to quick over the bigger bumps and i couldn't quite find a happy compromise. I think this is more the shock than the design of the frame though. Overall a very good ride it felt light, fast and nimble with generous suspension travel. This bike could easily be used for a bit of XC racing long epics and would cope with Alpine style riding.
Posted: 11/02/2006 17:45

I've had a Helius CC for over a year now and love it. A tip - get the anodised version - mine looks brand new even after several thousand miles.

The geometry only feels strange after jumping to it from my rigid bike. I had 100mm forks on it till recently and it steepens the head angle up a bit. I've now got Rockshox Revelations set at 130mm and they're also great.

I DON'T like the DT shock - too difficult to set up. It either feels like a rigid bike or blows through all its travel too easily. However, the bike can be ordered with a variety of shock options. In hindsight, the Fox would have been a better option.
Posted: 11/02/2006 18:27

The Helius CC is my own bike of choice (with a Rohloff) from the Nicolai range though I'm really enjoying my Argon FR Rohloff as a winter bike at the moment (we're hoping to get one of those to Mike for a review later in the year). There's not much to add to Mike's review.

Hugo - the raw angles on paper don't tell the whole story. Take one out for a ride and you'll understand.

Simon - the BB *is high* in 5" setting but the bike will handle anything Wales or the Lake District can throw at it. On those sort of trails the high bb is really useful. On smoother ground (24hour courses or southern woodland singletrack) there's little need for 5" of travel. Drop the fork and rear down to ~100mm and the bb height drops too. I used to ride a bike with a fairly low BB and whilst it carved well through singletrack pedal impacts became a problem upcountry. The Helius is easily tuned for where you're riding.

We've got on well with the DT shock over the last few years but the Rock Shox Pearl is a looking to be a great alternative - I'm going to give it a try on my Helius over the next month or two.
Posted: 12/02/2006 12:07

It just seems too expensive to me, i cant see where the £1500 goes on this frame.

I suppose it'll be exclusive at least, but it wont sell in numbers due to the price.
Posted: 12/02/2006 20:02

It's expensive yes and probably doesn't ride any better than a Specialized FSR. However, if you like lovely welding and really nicely finished stuff, you really can't get any better. Also, I've not had to touch the bearing yet which is more than be said for my old Trek Fuel - about 4 months was what I got out the bearings.

The colour of the test bike in the photos doesn't seem really do the bike justice - you have to see one in the flesh to appreciate it. Have a look at www.nicolai.net
Posted: 12/02/2006 21:43

Having had a helius cc for a year and a turner 5 spot now, the turner is waaaay better. Lower CofG on the turner is better, the DT shock is cr@p, blows through or is too hard, more rebound clicks than any shock I have ever seen. Anodising is great, I'd like to see you mark it up. What simon says is rubbish IMO, if you buy a 5" bike you want it right, variable travel bikes never excel, they're there to hedge bets. I'd like to see a dedicated 5" bike from Nicolai. I had a RP3 on mine after the DT, which was better. You can tell the difference between the spherical bushings and the Fox bushings by the way, by quite a margin too. Welding is the best by far that I have ever seen. But it wasn't that good as a bike otherwise I would have kept it...

Shop I bought it from was a turner dealer, I went in there to buy a Turner and bought a Nicolai. A year later I just went to a dedicated Turner dealer and bought the right bike.
Posted: 12/02/2006 23:23

variable travel bikes never excel

I think "rarely" or "don't always" would be fairer than "never". The usual problem with multi-travel bikes is trying to eke too much travel out of not enough shock, which isn't a problem that the Helius suffers from. But no one bike is going to suit everyone - if you want a 5in travel bike with a low BB then you might want to look elsewhere...


Posted: 13/02/2006 09:03

Surely, with the Nicolai being such a unique product in terms of its geometry and construction, it's a case of 'horses for courses' as opposed to just saying 'it's crap'?

I'm looking at a 5" travel bike for riding in conditions varying from Wales to chairlifting in the Peaks – the bikes out there are varied and wonderful, ranging from the lighter end of the spectrum including things like the 5Spot (which I've ridden and is an amazing bike) to the Helius FR (which, if I'm honest, is probably the bike I'll be going for with a lighter build). I can't help thinking that if you are an experienced rider with a decent product knowledge and a few different bikes under your bum then you'll have a definite idea of what works for you and what doesn't, which then gives you an idea of what product traits you'll be after when reading reviews. I've ridden a Helius CC and it is a very different beast to a 5Spot, but if you've got the cash to be seriously looking at either bike then I'd imagine you'd know exactly what you'll want out of it and these two, IMO, tick different boxes making a direct comparison a little unfair.
Posted: 13/02/2006 10:38

Peaks? Read 'Alps'... D'oh! Unless there's been some construction round Ladybower I know nothing about...
Posted: 13/02/2006 10:39

Stop being so sensible, Pimp ;-)
Posted: 13/02/2006 11:04

Sorry.

*blushes*

Rob H: Ur bik iz saracenin.

;-)
Posted: 13/02/2006 11:18

When it comes down to spending on bikes like Turners, S Cruz, Ellesworth, Nicolai it can come down to little things - in my case not being able to get a test ride on a Turner for a few months when I needed a new bike turned out to be one good reason why I didnt end up having a Turner.

Some little things with the Nicolai/DT Swiss combination:

The whole thing has been maintenance free for twelve months
Anodizing is a no additional cost extra which compares well with Santa Cruz
The rear drop out is a pain the backside but you learn the knack after 12 months!
In winter you dont want more than 2.1's in the back
The stickers are cr@p!

But its an awsome bike and if you get a chance to try one I dont think you will be disappointed!

Posted: 13/02/2006 21:07

It all depends what you're looking for. I tend to use my bike for a variety of purposes. This also involves riding it on the road for a significant amount of time to reach the trails. I therefore wanted a bike that:

1. could be locked out
2. had adjustable travel
3. was light

The Helius CC ticks all these boxes. In fact, I rarely reach for the lockout - even on the road.

I like the 5 Spot a lot and considered it along with a Santa Cruz Blur. In the end I went for the Nicolai and haven't been disapointed.
Posted: 14/02/2006 07:58

I have a Helius CC and have done since Sept 04. This is without doubt the best bike I’ve ever ridden. Mine is in anodised black and despite many attempts to destroy the bike it still looks new and works beautifully.

I’ve ridden this bike in Wales, Scotland, the Alps and Bristol! And it just eats trails and loves climbs. I can’t imagine having any other bike. At the time when I was looking for a new bike I tried a Turner 5 spot and just could not get on with it whereas the Nicolai just worked perfectly. The best bit was specking the bike. I went completely mental it was great fun. One thing that worked for me was ditching the rear shock. I now have springs front and rear and it is a different bike, even better than before!!

My only grip is the mud clearance at the back. I run 1.8 and narrow 2.1 and I still managed to stop the wheel with the amount of mud I’ve collected. But I can live with that because the bike is soooooo good.
Posted: 17/02/2006 11:35

On rear mud clearance one option is to use the rear 'chainstays' from a Helius FR on a CC. CC travel, a slight weight penalty, but clearance for a 2.6 tyre or more mud clearance with something narrower. We've not done one like that in a while but it's a good option.
Posted: 17/02/2006 12:06

Simon,

What's the cost for this?

Is it just the chainstays or the complete back-end that's required?
Posted: 17/02/2006 12:09

Thanks for the tip Simon, hadn't thought of that. The mud issue is only a prob here in Bristol around the Timberland Trail/Leigh Woods everywhere else I cycle does not seem to bother the bike!

Thanks
Posted: 17/02/2006 18:35

Mail us direct if you're interested. In the past it was a no-cost option when ordering a bike. Aftermarket it's probably in the "more than you'd hoped/less than you feared" category. The frame would need to be shipped back to the factory to ensure everything was perfectly aligned. You could combine it with a back to new refurb - all new bearings, powdercoat...
Posted: 17/02/2006 18:40

I had a ride on the bike in this test today from Head for the Hills in Dorking. The bike is excellent, I have ridden hardtails for years and was worried about suspension bob but there was hardly any, it climbs brilliantly.
I have ordered a bronze ano frame and can't wait for it to be built.
Posted: 18/02/2006 18:30

Pimp,

could you summarise the differences between the CC and the 5spot?
Posted: 21/02/2006 12:39

Yup I know the comments a little late but I tried every mid travel bike going then took out the CC - went from neutral "what is this machine" to "ye gods bring it on". Like you various mates tried it. Everyone loved it. 2 of us bought them - mines being delivered this week and I can't wait!

Posted: 21/02/2006 15:04

Sure. I've actually been thinking about this.

To put it into context, the CC is pretty much my perfect day for the TransAlp race – can be built stupidly light with pretty aggressive geometry, but not XC sharp because it's also carrying 4-5" travel to make your life a little easier on those long days in the saddle. A very good, fast enduro bike which would also be a lot of fun in Wales or the Lakes.

The 5Spot felt more relaxed with a slightly more DH bias in it's set-up, which is no bad thing. A very nice 'all mountain' (as much as I hate pigeon-holing) bike which, again, would be ideal in Wales or somewhere nicely rocky – Turner describe it as 'a do-anything bike where the terrain is really rough and steep and there are no heartrate monitors in sight'. That sums it up really nicely. Ideal bike for long rides with lots of techy steepness whilst out with mates into the hills.

This isn't to say that I consider one bike better than the other, and I have only very short rides to go by, but these were my initial feelings once I'd climbed on board.
Posted: 21/02/2006 16:23

On paper the Helius is ever-so-slightly steeper and a fair bit shorter. On the trail it feels sharper-steering, more of a chuck-about bike. The Turner's more point-and-shoot, you have to work it a bit more in corners. Which is better? Personal preference.
Posted: 21/02/2006 16:32

Now, the logical next step - Whats different on the FR to the CC?

CC is probably a bit weedy for my weight...
Posted: 21/02/2006 16:35

The FR is up to 6in travel, bigger shock, more metal ;-)
Posted: 21/02/2006 16:44

same ride...
Posted: 21/02/2006 16:59

I doubt it's too weedy unless you're over 20 stone... Surely it's the battering you give the bike rather than body weight which'll determine how it breaks?!

There doesn't seem to be an upper weight limit quoted for the CC so it looks like the full 5 year warranty would be honoured doubtless of rider weight.


Posted: 21/02/2006 18:43

same ride...

Slacker angles, although given the range of travel and shock mount options you could steepen it up and make it feel like a burly CC, I expect.

If you're used to a sturdily-specced Patriot (is that what you've got, Colin?) I suspect that the FR would be more up your street.
Posted: 21/02/2006 19:53

Good memory Mike. Although, I've been a 5spot rider since last may. Never properly comfortable on the patriot so I moved it on to someone who could do it justice.

Never been happier on a bike than on the 5spot, but you know how it is... always something else to look at/line up!
Posted: 22/02/2006 09:22

...you could steepen it up and make it feel like a burly CC...

Which is what I'm probably aiming to do. I believe that on paper it's a bit longer aswell.

Not that I've been drooling over the catalogue at all.

*dribble*

Ambulance? For Pimp? Men in white coats? Just tell them you haven't seen me...

Posted: 22/02/2006 13:10

Spoke to iBike and one of their guys is mixing the FR with the CC. FR with CC rear swing arm. Muttering about the Cdale carbon lefty 6" job to get a full on down hill rig at CC weight.
Posted: 22/02/2006 14:44

NB. For another £150 they will customise the frame. Really useful if your knuckles drag on the floor when walking!
Posted: 22/02/2006 15:18

A few tweaks to the Helius CC for 2007. Full details on the Nicolai UK website here: http://www.nicolai-uk.com/index.php/2007/03/helius-cc-2007/


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