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Scott Ransom 10

Scott's 6.5in travel carbon fibre all-mountain flyer tested


Posted: 27 July 2006
by Mike Davis

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  • Scott Ransom 10
  • £3,399
  • Carbon fibre all-mountain flyer
  • Unique shock
  • 165mm travel, 31.5lb

Pushed for time? Skip straight to the verdict.

Scott has been using carbon fibre for many, many years now, and has an excellent track record - only the other day we saw someone racing an old Endorphin hardtail that must be a decade old by now. In recent years it's been expanding the full suspension side of its range with the Genius range, notable for running Scott-designed shocks instead of the usual approach of buying them in.

The Ransom moves on another step, using an all-new Scott shock and appearing in carbon fibre right off the bat - the Genius bikes were aluiminium-only for the first year. The design intention is a long-travel all-mountain bike at a "reasonable weight" - 165mm of rear wheel travel from a claimed sub-7kg frame. We rode a not-quite-production Ransom at the 2005 Interbike show (the first journos to do so) but production bikes for test have proven elusive. We finally got our hands on one though, and here it is...

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Angular profile

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Cunning seatstays allow considerable seat droppage

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Rocker hidden away inside frame

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Front gear cable pulley

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Replaceable dropouts

Frame

There's an awful lot of interesting stuff going on in the Ransom frame, so you'll have to bear with us while we pontificate at length. There are actually two frames in the range. The top three bikes (20, 10 and Limited) have the carbon fibre frame, the bottom two (30 and 40) have an aluminium version that looks largely the same but weighs a little more.

The carbon frame is claimed to weigh 6.8lb including shock. That's impressively light for a 165mm travel frame, although it's not a huge amount lighter than Santa Cruz's Nomad, which is the obvious competitor for the Ransom. There's a hint of playing-safe overbuilding in the carbon Ransom, though - we wouldn't be at all surprised if future incarnations got even slimmer as Scott apply lessons learned from having bikes "in the field".

The frame's not quite all carbon fibre - the chainstays are aluminium. They hinge on what looks like a tiny pivot, but it's not actually as small as it looks - the bearings are housed in the main frame, so the bit you can see through the chainstays is just the shaft. Obviously from a stiffness point of view, it's better to have the bearings as far outboard as possible, but the position of the pivot (roughly middle ring height but right down behind the rings themselves) makes packaging an important consideration.

On the subject of packaging, a lot of cleverness has gone into fitting all of the moving gubbinses into the fairly limited space available. The front mech is mounted to a stub tube on the chainstay assembly, which means that it moves relative to the chainrings as the suspension compresses. Ordinarily we suck our teeth a bit at this kind of arrangement, but the Ransom's pivot placement seems to result in no undue front shifting anomalies. There's a very impressive little detail tucked away down there, too - the front gear cable is routed though a little pulley built in to the chainstay yoke. Tidy...

At the opposite end of the chainstays we have the dropouts. Scott has been criticised in the past for not equipping some of its bikes with replaceable derailleur hangers, but the Ransom goes the whole hog and features complete bolt-on dropouts on both sides. This saves you from hanger concerns without compromising shifting accuracy, and opens up the possibility of swapping the dropouts and running 12mm through-axles or whatever standard wins out in the future.

With just a passing mention of one of the coolest chainstay protectors we've ever seen, we'll move on to the rear pivots. These are on the seatstays, allowing suspension chin-strokers to pontificate upon its faux-bar/linkage-driven single pivot/whatever you want to call it nature. The seatstay assembly is all carbon fibre, and runs all the way forward to the top of the rocker linkage. In a very smart bit of design, the bottom end of the seatpost can pass through the seatstay assembly unimpeded, so you can drop the seat as if the bike had a full-length seatpost. Well, almost - if you drop it too far it'll clout the rebound dial on the shock.

Finally, tucked away in the belly of the carbon frame, is the really clever stuff. There's a rocker arm in there that's sufficiently well-hidden that experience FS bike designers have failed to spot it until its pointed out to them, and then there's the shock itself. Which is where the fun really starts.

Scott has been using its own shocks in the Genius range for a while, and the Equalizer shock in the Ransom is an evolution from those. To say that there's a hell of a lot going on with this shock is to severely abuse the term "a lot". It's got more more valves and levers than a saxophone shop and so many chambers that it's a wonder there isn't a law firm in there somewhere.

It's called the Equalizer because it has positive and negative air chambers that are designed to be run at the same pressure. Those pressures are quite high, of which more later. The first bit of shock cleverness is the on-the-fly travel adjustment. This is essentially the same as that on the Genius shock, with three settings operated from a bar-mounted lever. The locked-out mode is just what it says, the fully open mode delivers the full 165mm of rear travel and in between the two is the Traction mode. This cuts the travel to 90mm and makes the back end a lot more taut. It also means that the back end doesn't sag so much, giving the bike a steeper, more agile stance.

If you need further help with climbing, there's a platform-style damping circuit dubbed the "Power Stabiliser" which you can turn on and off by lifting or pushing in the rebound dial - it operates in both travel modes. The rebound damping itself features something called the "Intelligent Rebound Valve", which is essentially speed-sensitive rebound damping, allowing you to run a fairly lightly-damped shock that doesn't pack down over the pattery bits but won't spit you over the bars on big drops.

Keen observers will notice that the shock doesn't have an air can in the usual sense. Instead the air chamber is inside the main body of the shock. Unusually, the seals and bushings in there run in an oil bath, improving sealing and cutting stiction. This is a good thing, because the combination of 165mm wheel travel, a 50mm stroke shock and a smallish air chamber means running big shock pressures. We were running around 330psi in there, and if you're over 100kg or so you might want to shop elsewhere - the supplied pump only goes up to 450psi, and that's what you'll be wanting to run.

All of this kind of goes against the conventional wisdom, which is that lower leverage ratios (ie longer stroke shocks for a given wheel travel) are more desirable - greater oil volume, lower spring rates, reduced stiction, lower mechanical loads and so on. Most bikes we've enountered with this kind of travel are running 70mm stroke shocks. But Scott designer Peter Denk has his reasons for swimming against the tide here. Although the seals need to be tighter to hold the air in, the greater leverage makes it easier for the suspension to overcome initial stiction. The shaft speed is lower, which gives the seals an easier time and allows "more precise control of the oil flow [in the damping circuit]".

It's still a bit unnerving, but the proof is in the riding...

Components

For the £3,399 asking price you'd expect a pretty fearsome spec. It's pretty good, although it's clear that a lot of money is going into the frame. Even so, you're getting some proper high-end kit like SRAM X.0 mech and shifters and Thomson stem. The rest of it is in that sort of "sensible high-end" arena - XT HTII cranks, Avid Juicy 7 brakes - with a smattering of Scott-branded stuff to finish off. That includes the Scott Stroke tyres, chunky 2.35in treads with an unpretentious square-block tread. They work just fine on the Sun SOS 28mm rims.

Fox TALAS 36R forks grace the front of the Ransom 10. These aren't the most highly-regarded of the 36 range, but they felt pretty well balanced with the other end of the bike, which is at least half the battle.

What you really want to know is what it weighs. The whole Large bike came in at 14.3kg (31.5lb) on the BM scales.

Ride

The Ransom makes an interesting comparison with the Santa Cruz Nomad, mostly because it's different in almost every way but ends up achieving much the same results. It uses a straightforward suspension design using a sophisticated shock rather than a sophisticated design and a simple shock; the shock itself is short-stroke and highly leveraged rather than long and lazy; the back end is short and steep rather than long and relaxed. Most of all, though, the whole philosophy is different. Rather than the Nomad's approach of being one bike that can handle everything, the Ransom is more like having three different bikes.

Interestingly, the Ransom is also markedly different from previous Scott bikes. Traditionally Scotts have had somewhat, well, idiosyncratic geometry, but not in a particularly consistant way. "Short" is a usual feature, and steep seat angles usually feature heavily. At the front they're either racer-steep or DH shallow, which can make for some quite intriguing cockpit layouts. No such oddness with the Ransom, though - it feels just like a bike when you get on it, with everything being where you expect it to be and no sense of having to adjust yourself to suit it.

The "just like a bike" feel continues as you ride. Which sounds like damning with faint praise, but really isn't. Plenty of long-travel bikes don't feel like the sorts of bikes that most riders are used to, but the Ransom is instantly familiar. But almost infinitely more capable. Fast, rocky, drop-laden trails are despatched with something approaching contempt, and you don't have to get used to the bike first - it just gets on and does it.

Going back up the other way the clever shock comes into its own. A flick of the lever and the Ransom is transformed into a taut, short-travel bike, albeit a 31.5lb one with a long fork. It works very well, though - the bike sits higher at the rear, which combines with the steep seat angle to sort out the weight distribution for effective climbing, even without winding the fork down.

Calling it Traction Mode is a bit of a misnomer, though - the one thing it doesn't do is deliver bags of traction. Obviously it'll sniff out more grip than the locked-out mode, but the stiffer action can scrabble a bit. If you encounter a really marginally grippy climb you may find it's more effective to stay in the plusher full travel mode and shorten the fork (or just get your weight forward). Conversely, if you're in twisty singletrack the short-travel mode feels more like the tool for the job - fully open the Ransom tends to wallow a bit on compressions and it doesn't feel the sprightliest powering out of corners. In Traction mode it behaves more like a kind of superhardtail, and in fact led us to wonder why there weren't more bikes with 90mm of travel at the back and 150mm at the front.

As for those super-high shock pressures, they didn't seem to hinder the bike's performance in any substantial way. The suspension feels quite firm off the top, which could be stiction or could be the early part of the rate curve keeping things steady under power. Once it's moving, it likes to move quite a lot over middling hits but you'll have to work pretty hard to encounter the deeper reaches of the travel. We lost some air from the negative chamber on one ride, which made the bike behave very oddly indeed, but a quick tweak of the valve core sorted that out.

Handling is on the neutral side of neutral in all circumstances. It may not excite in and of itself, but it's sufficiently forgiving to let you get your kicks with the kind of unorthodox line choices that all that travel lets you get away with.

And rocks off the down tube? We stopped short of actually deliberately throwing rocks at it, but a fair few bounced off the frame to no apparent effect. Certainly the frame-tape protected down tube ended the test in better nick than the stays, which got rather scuffed up from heel rub - you'll probably want to get some tape on those too if you're a bit of a toe-out pedaller.

Neutral handling, familiar feel, effective multi-mode suspension, makes everything terribly easy

Slight mid-stroke wallow in long-travel setting, pricey, makes everything terribly easy


Verdict

To return to the inevitable Nomad comparison for a moment, the difference in approaches between the two bikes is marked. The Nomad is very much a set it and forget it kind of bike - the suspension design lets it be a true all-rounder, tackling all sorts of trail conditions without much in the way of fiddling. Indeed, most of the available fiddling just makes it worse. The Scott, though, makes a point of fiddling to work at its best in different situations, and it does it very well - the travel lever is fast and effective. And while many aspects of the design go against conventional wisdom, it all seems to work out in the end. The only real question is how well the shock will hold up. Scott's apparently had a good track record with the Genius shocks, so with any luck all will be well. Which just leaves the startling price, but cheaper models are available...

Of course, there's always the question of whether this is simply too much bike for the trails. But really that's a question that only you can answer. It wouldn't surprise us in the least to see Scott launching shorter travel versions of this platform in the future, though.


Performance Value Overall


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I know this might sound weird, but I've tried the Ransom 30 and it doesn't feel like a proper mountain bike, theres too much going on and it doesn't have a soul..........get a Reign instead!

(in my humble opinion of course)
Posted: 11/08/2006 16:41

i can't say an uber adjustable bike appeals to me either. i'm worried about getting adjustable travel forks and a QR seat collar on my next bike... think i'd spend more time adjusting travel and saddle height than riding the bugger!
Posted: 11/08/2006 19:17

Too much going on was exactly my thoughts when looking at one recently, constant servicing/fannying around was all I could think about, not WOW look at that.
Posted: 11/08/2006 20:40

Ah, thats better, bloody wife!
Posted: 11/08/2006 20:42

I borrowed one and was surprised to find I liked it. The back end was very well controlled and my only gripe was with the amount of brake dive. That would be easily cured by speccing the Drop Off. I tried the lock out and reduced travel modes but just rode it full bore once I'd decided they did what they were supposed to. A baby downhill bike that really can be ridden back up.

# quelque mots de Francais pour ceux qui ont du mal a croire que c'est vraiment John Gourette qui dit des choses gentille a propos d'un Scott#
Posted: 11/08/2006 20:58

Surely riding a bike should be about RIDING, not spending hours in the car park/garden shed fettling with your thresholds and platforms and adjusting your spring rates?

While the Ransom may well be a brilliant bike, IMO it's just adding too much uneccessary complication. It's not just the Scott though... There are plenty of other bikes/shocks/forks which are just as guilty!
Posted: 12/08/2006 17:05

I'm not really a fan of Scott, I don't like the idea of lavishing a long travel all mountain bike with Carbon. However, they seem to have managed to build a bit of a do it all bike which people who've ridden seem to like.
Posted: 14/08/2006 11:27

Well I got a Ransom 20 and I love it..
I have not touched the set up since I set it up on day I got it..

It rides so well I keep in full travel as it just works so well so I just get on with riding it.... I say I ride faster now and hitting big drop's that I would of never done before plus riding harder stuff.

But then we are all different as long as you enjoying the ride who cares what bike you ride..
Posted: 14/08/2006 13:52


DL3
I've been riding a Ransom 40 for 5 months now and it's great! every month or so I check the shock pressures but mainly, like Jay 300zx, I just ride the bike. if something really gnarly is coming up or if I need mega traction (sandy cobbled climbs etc) I'll flick the bar mounted remote suspension switch to long travel but it's equally capable if you just leave it in the 'traction control' mode.

whatever Scott have done this doens't feel like a 34lb (according to my bathroom scales for the 'heavy' bottom of the range Ransom) bike even when climbing.

I wish scott had produced this years ago when I first switched from hardtail! :)
Posted: 27/02/2007 18:18

I am thinking of buying a Ransom 20, just waiting for my wounds to heal so I can take a test ride. Came off last week at the Carron Valley fun park not much of a bl**dy fun park for me. Do you recomend the 20?, I ride a Scott G Zero FX1 at the momment
Posted: 27/02/2007 18:47

DL3 good to see you enjoying your Ransom...! They do climb well cannot wait for my next trip to Scotland on it..!

Stewart 20 is a great bike I would try one when you can. I have never had a G Zero so cannot really say how the two are like.

I did have a MC50 which was a good bike but seemed to be on top of the bike plus set up was a pain. The Ransom is very easy to set the rear shock up plus the feel is so much better. Plus the bike is how would I say it ''more inspiring'' you part of the bike.

I sure there is other bikes that do the same it fitted what I wanted..

Still I do love riding my Steel hardtail as it different type of riding.

Like I say who cares what bike you have as long as you enjoy riding it. :-)
Posted: 28/02/2007 13:33

I rode a Reign once the most uninteresting hour I ever spent on a bike. just had no soul
Posted: 28/02/2007 22:04

Jay (or anyone that feels like answering)-

 I just found a sweet deal on a Scott Ransom 30 and had a few questions. With my riding, I really want to get into XC and some off-road triathlons, but want to push the limits on the normal trail riding(maybe work on some drops). I own a specialized rockhopper right now and am ready to make the switch to duel suspension. Will the ransom be light enough and climb well enough to cut it? All of the info I've read makes the ransom look godly, but is it really as good as it looks?

 Thanks for whatever.


Posted: 14/10/2007 22:11

off-road triathlons

That's essentially XC racing. The Ransom's a lovely all-round trail bike, but not really the tool for the job for racing. You'll be carrying about 6lb more bike weight than a lot of people, and typically the courses aren't harsh enough that you'll get any benefit from the extra travel. 


Posted: 15/10/2007 10:12

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