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Whyte 46 Mk2 and Alpine Link

It's back - Whyte's limited edition long-travel trail bike returns for 2005. Plus we try out the new stability-enhanced Alpine Link


Posted: 3 February 2005
by Mike Davis

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  • Whyte 46 Mk2
  • £2,695; Alpine Link £49.95
  • Whyte Bikes
  • 01424 753566

The limited-edition Whyte 46 was released last year to widespread approval, and with good reason. It was, and still is, a staggeringly capable bike. All 500 of them were sold (pretty impressive for a £2,700 bike) and for 2005 Whyte has released a Mk2 version.

The other development is a retrofittable suspension link that relaxes the geometry of the bike to make it more suitable for long, high-speed descents. Called the Alpine Link it's aimed primarily at riders taking trips to the eponymous mountain region but may be of interest to anyone regularly riding in certain parts of the UK.

We've been riding the 46 Mk2 in standard and Alpine Linked form (although disappointingly not actually in the Alps). It's sufficiently similar to last year's bike that it's well worth reading the original test if you haven't already, just to save us repeating ourselves.

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Lower top tube necessitates extra gusset

Frame

Following the well-known mantra "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", changes to the 46 frame for 2005 are really just tweaks and refinements. It's basically the same shape, but the most obvious difference is that the top "tubes" are lower across the sizes. It's still a big bike - that's a Medium with the seat adjusted for a 6ft rider in the pictures - but the improved standover makes it feel smaller and adds a degree of confidence. Rather than rely on super-long seatposts, the top of the seat tube is where it used to be and a gusset has been added between top and seat tubes to add some support.

Also revised is the swingarm. It's now got panels stamped in it, for which the engineering justification is added stiffness. More importantly for most riders, the freshly-profiled swingarm looks a lot less slabby than the original model.

Tucked away at the back end of the shock is another little tweak. Rather than the conventional arrangement of DU bushing and aluminium spacers to mount the shock, Whyte has used pressed-in "top hats" containing actual proper bearings with actual proper rolling elements inside. It's a heavier solution but they should last a lot longer. And when they do pack up they should be somewhat easier to replace.

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Redesigned swingarm adds stiffness and looks better

The changes have certainly improved the look of the 46. We liked the appearance of the original model, but the new one looks more compact and purposeful thanks to the smaller main triangle.

Components

There wasn't anything in the spec of the original 46 that we'd have been tempted to change, and indeed almost nothing has for 2005. The Maverick DUC fork is still present and correct, brakes are Hope Mono M4s upgraded with Goodridge braided hoses, transmission is Shimano XT (still with a conventionally-sprung rear mech). The wheel package combines Maverick front and Hope rear hubs with Mavic 717 rims shod with Conti Gravity tyres. We feel that these tyres work better on slightly wider rims, but there seems to be a gap in the market where a wide but still lightweight rim ought to be.

The only real spec change is the rear shock, which is now Fox's new RP3 model with three-way adjustable ProPedal. Whyte has done a lot of work with Fox to tune the shock to the Quad-Link suspension design and it's paid off. Although you can't actually turn ProPedal off completely, the "minimum" setting on the 46 might as well be off - it's very plush. At the other end of the scale, maximum ProPedal isn't actually locked out but on smooth surfaces it's near enough for those who like that sort of thing. The middle setting is a happy compromise between small-bump sensitivity and stable pedalling. Who'd have thought it? The 46 is a stable bike under power anyway, but it does feel more sprightly and only slightly less supple in the middle setting.

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The Alpine Link squares up to the stock item

Alpine Link

We're not going to discuss the ride qualities of the 46 again - you can read the Mk1 review rather than us repeating ourselves. There're a couple of minor differences, though. We never really found the back end of the original bike to be significantly flexy, but the new one is even less so. And the lower top tube manages to make the bike feel handier and more compact (even though all the contact points are in exactly the same place), encouraging you to chuck it about.

In standard form the 46 is a fast-handling bike given its travel. This is great for large parts of the UK - it's happier in twisty stuff than most big bikes and holds a line up hills without early recourse to the fork lockdown. But riders in bigger terrain who tackle long, fast downhills may find the stock bike a little tall and fidgety. This is where the new Alpine Link upgrade comes in.

The Alpine Link replaces the bottom link in the Quad-Link suspension system. It's slightly longer than the stock item, which results in the bike sitting slightly lower at the back. The bottom bracket drops 10mm (or just under 1/2in in old money) and the frame angles both drift back by about a degree.

That doesn't sound like much, and to be fair it isn't, but it's enough to give the bike a bit of extra high-speed stability. It doesn't turn it into a downhill bike, just a slightly more relaxed trail bike, but it means that it'll find its own way a little better. Inevitably the Alpine setup isn't quite as point-and-shoot up hill as the standard arrangement, tending to wander slightly more and requiring you to get your weight further forward, but the Maverick fork's lockdown feature comes into play and sorts that out a treat.

It actually feels like it could go even slacker without becoming a complete pig on climbs, but the Alpine Link is as long as it can be. It's easy to fit (just pay attention to the instructions - there are lots of spacers and washers that need to go in the right places) and, at fifty quid, a worthwhile extra if you're spending a lot of time in big hills or mountains. It's not just for the 46, either - it'll also fit Marin TARA bikes.


A gently improved version of an already superb bike
Could it actually be too good?
Verdict
We're a bit surprised that there aren't more bikes like this on the market in 2005. Sure, there're plenty of long-travel trail bikes out there, but most manufacturers seem to have settled on 5-5.5in for that style of bike. Partly, we think, this is down to the forks on offer, but whatever the reason it means that the 46 is still in a very, very small class of 6in travel all-round bikes. And fitting the Alpine Link, while not a Jeckyll-and-Hyde transformation, gives the bike a reassuringly relaxed feel for those epic ski-area descents.
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I bought a mkII 46 and used it for the first time in Afan last weekend. All I can say is beleive the hype. The frame is the bomb and those forks are the best Ive ridden I didnt use the 4" mode up front to often. As you can power through anything as it is in 6". Get Saving!
Posted: 03/02/2005 22:07

I've had a marin tara wolfridge 2004 and I really pleased with the suspension set up. However the bushings are going in the rear fox shock and I was thinking of upgrading to the Whyte bearings and also getting the alpine link fitted.

Any readers have any experience of these upgrades ? I live in Bristol and ride Afan alot so thought the relaxed angles might be more fun on the downhills.

Cheers
Neil
Posted: 05/02/2005 15:33

for that much i hope it washes itself :)
Posted: 05/02/2005 15:49

I can tell you about the Whyte bearing kit, 'cos I have them on my Whyte

The bearings replace the LOWER bush, you still need to buy the upper bushes. They cost £25 an end and you won't notice them. They won't need replacing every couple months though
Posted: 05/02/2005 15:56

"They cost £25 an end"

Ignore that

'an end' as in my PRST-4 which has two shocks

Obviously you'd only need to buy one Neil
Posted: 05/02/2005 15:57

Ho! Ho! Ho!
Christmas came a little late this year in the form of my '05 Whyte 46.
First impressions: - Wow!! Despite the size and travel, it accelerates quicker than my carbon Giant NRS (genuinely!), and the plush extra travel has had me re-evaluating what is possible on a bike.
I love the feel of the bike & the fact you can ride it seat up or down - it feels equally confidence inspiring both ways.
Probably the biggest benefit of ownership is having a bike you don't feel the need to have expensive upgrade path for!
May require a visit to Morzine this summer....
Posted: 06/02/2005 21:26

Im gonna rag my something silly in Chamonix come july. See you there!
Posted: 06/02/2005 23:12

Can anyone recommend a few trail-built spots in Wales for a weekend bash - should have a free weekend coming up soon! Also, is there anywhere with North-Shore style log track?
Posted: 11/02/2005 18:11

Just fitted the Alpine Link to my Mk2 Whyte 46. The angle does feel massivly different and the bike now wheelies and manuals like a 'proper' freeride rig. The ballance for play/free riding is perfect. I havn't tried it XC yet, but I'll post again when I do. Just from playing on the bike though, I can tell that it won't be quite as confident on the climbs, but it only took me 5 min to swap over. Quicker and easyer than a shock swap! I'll be keeping the Alpin link in for most of my riding, and swaping back to standard for all day enduro and XC stuff.

There are still some people that don't give this bike respect yet, possibly cos it's out of their league. Belive the reviews and this new link makes it even more versatile.

Well done John!
Posted: 15/02/2005 17:03

"There are still some people that don't give this bike respect yet, possibly cos it's out of their league"

What?? a Marin with overpriced forks! LOL!
Posted: 15/02/2005 18:07

snigger
Posted: 15/02/2005 20:50

Spindrift- Have you had any problems with the swingarm catching on the top of the alpine link? I had mine fitted the other day an the swingarm catches the top of the alpine link and stops the shock stroke 20mm short. That means I'm only getting 4 inches and its damaged my swingarm and the link. Just check it before you go doing any big drops mate, let the air out of your shock and watch as the bike sinks through its travel.
Posted: 15/02/2005 21:10

Sounds familiar ;-)
Posted: 15/02/2005 21:16

"swingarm catches the top of the alpine link"

I'm having trouble visualising this. Is the link fitted the right way round?
Posted: 15/02/2005 21:37

"I'm having trouble visualising this"

me too
Posted: 15/02/2005 21:44

Trying to see what you mean by this.

Is the part of the swingarm holding the link catching on the other end of the link attached to the frame when compressed?
Posted: 15/02/2005 21:59

Sit on the bike and look down. You'll see that the swingarm overlaps the link, the link disappears under the swingarm. As the suspension compresses the recess in the swingarm allows the swingarm to move towards the link. Well, mine isnt. The swingarm touches the link. It is hard to explain. I have pics if anyone wants to see.

Scott Parkinson.
Posted: 15/02/2005 22:29

WTF?
Posted: 15/02/2005 23:34

I had a look at this and I can see what you mean, although mine doesn't come anywhere near to hitting. So I let ALL the air out of my shock and pushed on the back. Only then did my swingarm hit the link. So I called up Whyte (ATB Sales) and spoke to Dave who reassured me that the swingarm will NOT hit the link even under hard hits. Make sure your shock is set up correctly. If you have any doubts, I'd suggest contacting them.
Posted: 16/02/2005 12:37

The design of the QUAD means the shock ramps up towards the end of it's travel and shouldn't bottom out anyway
Posted: 16/02/2005 12:43

Thanks lads. I'm currently in "talks" with ATB about this as it has damaged the swing arm and is only allowing 2/3 of the shock stroke before a metal-on-metal contact. Its being sent back to ATB so I'll await their findings. I think it'll be a new swingarm and link but I want a new frame. Dunno how my rights as a customer are on this but hopefully it wont come to that. ATB have been great so far.
Posted: 16/02/2005 16:21

Let me know what happens. I have put an additional 5lbs of preasure in my shock to make extra sure I don't suffer the same results!
Posted: 16/02/2005 17:01

Why do you want a new frame? Surely if the replacement swing arm and link solves the problem, then that's all you need?

I recently cracked the seat tube on my '04 Rocky Ridge and ATB were great. I had a new, replacement frame within three days of mine being sent to them. Class.
Posted: 16/02/2005 21:25

Did they give you a complete frame or just the front triangle?

Posted: 16/02/2005 21:39

It's a hardtail, so it was a complete frame :-)

I was just wondering if the frame is damaged, if not then why would they replace it? Sorry, just a little confused.
Posted: 16/02/2005 21:45

I dont know if the front triangle is damaged or not. I'd just rather have a new frame. The damage occurred through no fault of my own and I'd feel more confident with a complete replacment. Also, theres no guaruntee that the colours will match and after I've paid £2700 I want it to be perfect. Wouldnt you?

Ive no complaints with ATB, I was merely informing other 46 owners to check the clearances if they have an Alpine Link fitted :-)
Posted: 16/02/2005 21:55

I think I'd want to be satisfield that the front triangle was undamaged and not faulty in any way. If that's the case, I'd have thought it would be unlikely that they'd replace the enire frame, but ATB have a good reputation for sorting frame problems, so you never know. Good luck with it anyway.

Nice bike, though I'd not buy one myself.
Posted: 16/02/2005 22:16

Thanks Juan, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Posted: 16/02/2005 22:20

"I have pics if anyone wants to see."

Yes please :-)
Posted: 17/02/2005 11:21

i'd like to see too
Posted: 17/02/2005 12:50

Give me your email addys and I'll send you the pics.
Posted: 18/02/2005 13:02

mike@bikemagic.com. Or stick 'em on the site - click the Gallery tab at the top...
Posted: 18/02/2005 14:04

Any news on this yet? Jumped a set of stairs with mine and no probs. Was only about 5 foot of vertical, but to flat and concrete, so im sure the hit would have been hard enough to reproduce your problem.
Keep us up to date.
Posted: 24/02/2005 22:28

I'm getting a 05 frame. Apparrently the link was made wrong, it had the wrong profile or something (just my luck). ATB warrantied me a new swing arm but I've bought the front triangle to make it up to a full 05 bike. ATB were very apologetic and I'm very happy with the outcome. Now all I need to do is wait for the new link to be made...its like crimbo all over again!

Did the jump use all of the travel?
Posted: 24/02/2005 22:47

No, the bike and shock handled it with ease. So was your problem a compatability issue with the 04 frame and the link, or was your link made incorrectly?

If it was your link, I presume that this is a problam that could crop up on others. Could you send me those pics you mentioned?

Cheers!
Posted: 24/02/2005 23:21

I dont know what it was mate. If it was the link then i thought it would have been found out and re-called. It sounds like it was a bit of both although I'm gonna wait to see if this new alpine link looks any different to the old one.

Whats your email addy and I'll send you the best pic I have. Its not very clear but you can see where the problem is.

Posted: 24/02/2005 23:34

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