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Dropoff cafe to leave Glyncorrwg

Popular post-ride hangout set to vacate Glyncorrwg centre at Afan Forest Park


Posted: 16 October 2009
by Mike Davis

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Afan Forest Park's Dropoff cafe is to vacate its current home at Glyncorrwg MTB centre. In the going-on five years since the Dropoff was opened, it's become a popular haunt for pre- and post-ride refuelling. Owner Ian Luff is an enthusiastic (and brisk) rider himself and had a good handle on what MTBers were after in a cafe - sizable portions being a key element. Plus, of course, a license to serve alcohol...

But now the Glyncorrwg Ponds Corporation which owns the site has decided not to renew the contract to run the cafe, and the Dropoff team will move out on 24 December.

Ian Luff said, "I’m gutted that GPC have taken this decision, but it’s one that they have thought long and hard about and they believe that having the Dropoff at the centre is not viable."

It's not the last you'll hear of the Dropoff, though - plans are afoot to launch "something a little more interesting". Before that, though, the Dropoff will be hosting the post-event party at the Kona Mash-Up singletrack speedfest on 5 December - you can enter at www.konaworld.uk.com.


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That's sad news, they do some right decent nosh there. 

Where will you eat now Mike?


Posted: 16/10/2009 08:21

I can't see the logic of that at all, that's the best post ride refuel stop I have ever been to, by quite a sizeable margin. I guess it must have been running at a loss (not surprising with the size of the portions).

I am not normally sentimental about businesses going, but that place really did provide top rate nosh, and friendly service like few others do.

It is a real shame.


Posted: 16/10/2009 08:30

I thought the service there was pretty crap on the whole.
Posted: 16/10/2009 08:32

I hope they get drop-off in to replace the weirdo that runs the new(ish) centre at cwmcarn and their bizarre passive aggressive signs all over the place.

 A sad and probably misguided decision, I would imagine for most the decision to stay and grab some grub at Glyncorrwg rather than bring their own food for a post ride refuel is purely down to it being a nice place to hangout/good food/decent size portions etc. and you can bet your boots that a more 'commercially viable' (or in laymans terms eye gougingly expensive fast food served by an indifferent teenager on minimum wage) will see less traffic and most probably take less cash. I appreciate the place has to pay its way, but the fact it doesn't is more likely due to the over the top huge building that has been put there and needs to be paid for. Odds on the only real income there by this time next year is from car parking and the bike shop's rent.


Posted: 16/10/2009 10:02

Read about this afew day's ago on the Cwm Down site, never been there myself, but from what i've heard been told was a top place.

The visitor center at Cwm Carn is a horrible place in my view, perhaps the drop off could take that over and show em how it's done.


Posted: 16/10/2009 10:55

All all the purpose-built visitors centres I've visited in the UK, Afan+Dropoff has been my favourite. It's the yardstick I measure all others against. But, it's not without it's flaws, service does tend to suffer when crowded. But, then surely it's a good sign that it is crowded? I've ridden the trails a couple of times with Ian. Thoroughly nice chap. Knows his stuff. Exceptionally passionate about riding, and giving something back. Has time for everyone. And, rides like a nutter. If there is any justice, he'd get the contract to do something with Cwmcarn. God knows it (visitors centre) needs help.
Posted: 16/10/2009 11:11

That's a real shame. I can't help but think an injection of business advice would be much better than just closing up shop...my two penneth: They always seemed to have about 4 staff working there. Too many dishes / specials. Portions were variable but normally too big. Prices were low on some dishes and high on others. Average time for customers to receive food was normally high. Customer turnaround was low I.e. one cup of coffee and a flapjack = hanging around the cafe for 45mins. If they were to normalise the prices, reduce the number of dishes and drop a couple of the staff then it might make it more viable, because every time i've been in there it's been rammed. I can't imagine the pond owners really want to see the cafe go, the cafe has to be a honey pot if the right business decisions were made, otherwise you've just got dead space upstairs. My guess is there is more to the decision than meets the eye.
Posted: 16/10/2009 11:12

Just reading back through, it sounds like he owned the business, so was probably just renting the premises. I wonder if the cafe itself was actually making a profit, and its just the centre owners thought they could get more money doing something else.

Like BHB there may be more than meets the eye about the decision, one thing not taken into account was that the cafe was a great resource well liked by mountainbikers, and that's what the original investment from taxpayers money was meant to create.


Posted: 16/10/2009 11:19

Monkey Space Pilot (El Capitan) wrote (see)

Just reading back through, it sounds like he owned the business, so was probably just renting the premises. I wonder if the cafe itself was actually making a profit, and its just the centre owners thought they could get more money doing something else.

Like BHB there may be more than meets the eye about the decision, one thing not taken into account was that the cafe was a great resource well liked by mountainbikers, and that's what the original investment from WELSH taxpayers moneyand the Welsh Assembly was meant to create.

He may not have been able to meet the new lease charges as well as buisness rates, so probabably Costa lotta coffe will take it over , for all the English coffee drinking incomers.


Posted: 16/10/2009 11:26

Sadbloke...Cwm Carn, Afan, Glyncorryywyyg and the surrounding businesses exist because of English Money...I'm sorry but I very much doubt that the average person in Neath or Maesteg spend they're hard earned cash on very expensive bikes and sit around for a £6 post ride snack. Ed: The above was simplistic, but I'd hold my hand up if I'm wrong that over the year the number of visitors to the trail centres in South Wales weren't from over the bridge.
Posted: 16/10/2009 11:31

Who the foock do you think funds the welsh assembly, not the backward sheep shagging retards who live there surely.
Posted: 16/10/2009 11:32

Bhb, it may well be english money , but when its spent in Wales its welsh  money

MSP, as per usual a well structured argument.


Posted: 16/10/2009 11:37

Sadbloke we're all aware of the welsh fiscal policy regarding the UK taxpayers
Posted: 16/10/2009 11:41

But, it's not without it's flaws, service does tend to suffer when crowded.

I got shocking service and I was the only person in there. I got fed up of waiting and left, got something to eat on the way home.


Posted: 16/10/2009 12:21

Yeah I never figured how they managed to do that
Posted: 16/10/2009 12:45

*wonders how odd looking Klunk actually is*
Posted: 16/10/2009 13:21

very
Posted: 16/10/2009 13:24


Posted: 16/10/2009 13:26

I'v always had good service there and will be sad to see it go BUT a friend has had appalling service on the two occasions she has used it.  

Definately more to this than meets the eye.


Posted: 16/10/2009 14:32

I've heard on another forum he's gonna do a mobile bacon roll service out on the trails, so that could be cool
Posted: 16/10/2009 15:45

I think the newnham caterers should do it a big plate of pasta pesto and a half baguette for £2.50, I can eat that stuff all day long.
Posted: 16/10/2009 15:48


b r

Sorry, but its a top place to eat - we worked our day out last Saturday so we could both get lunch there and finish with coffee/beer/cake - 'cos there is no way we were eating down at the other centre's cafe, as that is seriously shite.

We always said if you  ever wanted to see the difference between public and private ownership, from a service perspective, go to the two Afan cafes!

I'm guessing somebody has offered more money for the contract, the same thing happened near us, in the Ashridge cafe.


Posted: 16/10/2009 18:12

black heart billy,, We even get your money of you when you come over the 7 bridge as well,,,ha ,, By  the as for sheep, we shag um and you eat um,,.

Its a sad day for the cafe , it was all part of going there riding the bike, shower then into the cafe, its a pity


Posted: 16/10/2009 18:40

Black Heart Billy wrote (see)
Sadbloke we're all aware of the welsh fiscal policy regarding the UK taxpayers


Please elaborate on the above.........................

Well said Kerrry.


Posted: 16/10/2009 22:06

I loved the dropoff..Thier cheese on toast was legendary.

When you capmed there it was a fantastic place to get bladdered in the evening also.

I hope that the new leasholders will uphold the spirit of the trails and give good homecooked food and decent beer at reasonable prices.

The Cafe felt like a place for mountain bikers and looking down the valley from the deck  with your huge hunk of food and decent bottled beer you felt that you had made a pilgrimage .

A plate of soggy chips with a plastic burger and a fosters would sorta take the shine off that


Posted: 17/10/2009 07:15

We even get your money of you when you come over the 7 bridge as well,,,ha

And the reason you pay the whole toll getting into Wales is because everyone's in such a hurry to get back to civilisation they'd just crash thru' an toll booths in their way out.  And it's Severn btw  

I feel the need for an Afan trip before the end of the year, if only to have one last lasagne in there


Posted: 17/10/2009 14:38

I'm going up in the van to do the Kona Mash Up on Dec 5th, that's going to be my last trip up with old drop off
Posted: 17/10/2009 14:56

Mmmmm Dec 5th.

*goes to check calendar*


Posted: 17/10/2009 14:57

A trip to afan in late November would be good, I could visit my family in wales (I know, I don't like to speak about it) and buy some british beer for Christmas.
Posted: 17/10/2009 14:58

We could make it an On-one only meet 
Posted: 17/10/2009 15:03

Dec the 5th I could do that.
Posted: 17/10/2009 15:10

We could make it an On-one only meet I've got to get a hope headset and brakes, new seatpost, new saddle and a set of wheels past the missus first
Posted: 17/10/2009 22:10

The Dropoff is an oasis in a desert. Driving to and from the the trail centre, there doesn't seen to be any convenient alternative foody place so it seems a bit crazy.
Posted: 18/10/2009 10:52

Bloody good Burger King at the  M4- maesteg junction
Posted: 18/10/2009 12:47

better coffee too.
Posted: 18/10/2009 16:56

When the BM lot went to Afan we went to a pub that was an old railway station..that was good grub for cheap and the barman seemed to know the trails too
Posted: 19/10/2009 10:54

The pub that was a railway station is pretty decent. Still the couple of times I've been there the drop off café was pretty good. My only complaint was the posy wankers on the terrasse...
Posted: 19/10/2009 11:24

were two of 'em riding Cotic Souls and was one nursing a separted shoulder?
Posted: 19/10/2009 17:59

Nobby wrote (see)
 
 

We even get your money of you when you come over the 7 bridge as well,,,ha

And the reason you pay the whole toll getting into Wales is because everyone's in such a hurry to get back to civilisation they'd just crash thru' an toll booths in their way out.  And it's Severn btw  

I feel the need for an Afan trip before the end of the year, if only to have one last lasagne in there

It maybe Severn but what "Crash thru an toll booths in their way out " means is anyones guess!
And Ed, it maybe, in your mind, people from over the bridge who visited the trail centre more but that aint proof. And if its true it hasn't helped cos its shutting!  So, if you dont want to pay the Bridge (which is owned by the French) ride your flatland and leave the hills to us.
Posted: 20/10/2009 20:04

So, if you dont want to pay the Bridge (which is owned by the French) ride your flatland and leave the hills to us.

Or Just take the A48


Posted: 20/10/2009 20:08

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