 Give'em 5 years, bikes will be lighter thean air. Depressing 
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 You have to pick the Storck Rebelion up to believe just how light it is, nothing prepares you for the shock when you loft it into the air with your little finger. Bonkers! I can't wait to ride the new Cannondale though, can't fail to be anything but blisteringly fast
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 Would you really feel confident on anything mroe than a towpath on something like that Rebelion though? I wouldn't. Besides, if a bike is so light it becomes a bit untenable on rough trails as it won't hold a line well. Silly light makes huge sense on road bikes but I doubt the wisdom of pushing it beyond a certain point for MTB's.
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depends on what you view as the 'certain point' i guess. the German's clearly have a different point to us 
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 I keep making my bikes heavier nowadays. Tougher stuff breaks less and I don't exactly include "climbing quickly" in my personal geography. But fair play to people that want to buy that and those that manage to make it. But < 15lb for a mountain bike? That's bonkers.
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 Wow, that Organic is nuts! 120mm front and back and half the weight of my hardtail, and itlooks like it may take a moderate hammering.......OK how much??!
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 Where do I get one  ...
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 Where do I get one ... Join the back of the queue in the kidney sale thread.
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Seems to me these furious fred tyres must be made of hydrogen or summut. They all (exept one) have them on.
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I thought that, which must mean they're either lighter than Maxxis Maxxlite 310s, or are similar, but actually work!
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 German's clearly have a different point to us Tis true. In practically all bike shops that sell higher end stuff there is a set of digital scales sitting on the counter. All German mtbers seem to know exactly how much their bike weighs.I think it highlights the difference between the Brits and their other Euro contemporaries. Most of the German XC crowd I know don't like gnarly technical descents and indeed I listened in disbelief once when one racer was complaining to the organizers that the descents were too difficult! That's why I tend to go riding more with the DH riders as they seem to know what having fun is all about.
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 Most of the German XC crowd I know don't like gnarly technical descents I don't think I would on one of those bikes
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Love the data sheet for the Furious Fred: "No question - you want to win! Is the track drying out? Can you risk a puncture? Is your technical riding skill excellent? OK - you are ready for Furious Fred. " Hopefully then your bike handling skills can make up for a lack of useful grip?!
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295g for an MTB tyre is just asking for stitches IMO - race bike or not. It can't possibly grip well and not get damaged at that weight.
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It can't possibly grip well and not get damaged at that weight. "No question - you want to win! Is the track drying out? Can you risk a puncture? Is your technical riding skill excellent? OK - you are ready for Furious Fred. " Clearly Schwalbe agrees with you.
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 "Carbon fibre brake rotors apparently work fine but tend to heat up quite quickly." I thought they had to heat up to work properly?
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Yeah and here is the rest of the Furious Fred blurb, I love translations!: "Warning! To anyone who wants everything. Furious Fred is the fastest MTB tire - Ever!
But be aware: It is not an allrounder. Grip is limited and risk of punctuiring is high. " Sounds like when I go off roading on my super moto slicks, off-camber grip is definitely limited there
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I thought they had to heat up to work properly? I don't believe that these are made of the same stuff as racing car rotors, which have to get REALLY hot as I'm sure you know. You can't fault Schwalbe for honesty
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