 Luvly, v luvly. But ouch, my whole remedy cost less than that frame. How much did that whole build weigh Mike? "It's not a bike designed for one thing, but it's hard to see where the compromises are" Good stuff  "All-mountain bikes"? nah just call em "mountain bikes"
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 That one was 27lb-ish.
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 thats more than expected, my wifes 07 stumpy fsr is 27.5 with some pretty stout stuff on it 
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A Stumpy FSR isn't 140mm/150mm travel, though 
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up front it is
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 27.5 is pretty light for an FSR with 150mm forks, I've hung a lot of them on my scales!
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 Your scales go that high?!
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They nearly buckled the first time I hung a bike on them over 25lbs, they didn't know what'd hit them!
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 Shame you're not bringing them to mayhem, i'd love to see what the current SS weighs
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Tell us what it is, we can all guess
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Massi carbon hardtail manitou skareb forks (temporary) royce hubs, 717's v-brakes (also temp) xt cranks set up SS currently using an old mech as a tensioner mix of bog standard finishing kit and token carbon parts (inc bars) When i get the chain tensioners and v-levers i'l whack a pic or 2 up. amazingly cheap though
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blimey $2399=£2399 these days! With the pound against the dollar back upto 1.64 thats nearly £950 extra to get this thing over here. That has to pay for a pretty sweet holiday to moab along with a new (USA) bike if you are in the market for one of these. Who is making out like a bandit here, are we getting ripped off by the importers or are import taxes are really this high? Does anyone know how much 'extra' it costs to import a bike (outside of in a bike bag after a holiday)
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 probably wont be around when i retire.thats the earliest ill have that amount of money.
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You should be able to find out at www.hmrc.gov.uk but it will be VAT & import duty which varies considerably depending on the goods you buy.
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IIRC import duty on frames is 5%. 15% VAT on the total of purchase price and duty. So knocking on £1,800. You'd about get a flight for that difference, I guess. And your aftersales service is 6,000 miles away
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cheers nobby, commodity code 8712 00 30 00 apparently, so 14% import duty and 15% VAT. So a shade over £1900 if you pay RRP in the USA, plus post and packing. I presume the shops in the states make money selling at this price, i don't understand why it costs an extra £450 odd quid for the same thing over here. Would love to support my local bike shop (am actually considering getting a blur ltc), but not to the tune of £450. I am missing something in working out the costs on this anyone?
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IIRC import duty on frames is 5%. 15% VAT on the total of purchase price and duty. So knocking on £1,800. You'd about get a flight for that difference, I guess. And your aftersales service is 6,000 miles away cool, just enough cash left over to go and personally throw the frame in the bin of santacruz if it snaps riding up a fireroad then!
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They're not supposed to sell to the UK (or anywhere abroad), there was a crack down on it a couple of years ago, no idea how strictcly it's enforced. Trek have closed dealers down for selling internationally, it means they can keep screwing us over more easily.
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I think you'd struggle to successfully get one mail ordered to you in the UK. No bike company can stop you travelling to another country, buying a bike there and bringing it home. And if you pay all the relevant duties and taxes, it's all fully legit. But you won't actually save any money that way, and good luck getting any warranty backup from the UK importer. It's also worth mentioning that stuff isn't quite as cheap in the US as it appears - prices are usually listed exclusive of sales tax, because that varies from state to state (and often within states too). Buy something in California and there'll be 8.25% on top. If you're exporting it you can get that back, but I mention it only to ensure that apples are being compared to apples  In the current climate of ever-shifting exchange rates, importers are taking a gamble with RRPs - it's not practical to constantly change the prices, they have to fix them for a sensible period of time, and whatever level they go for they'll either win or lose. In this particular case, I gather that UK LTc sales are quite healthy, so presumably the market isn't finding the price particularly offputting...
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But you wouldn't buy a trek would you nick?!
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