 How's the need for power tools a problem?
Surely anyone with a garage floor has a drill!?
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 or ou could hire one for less than a tenner for a morning, from your local hire centre.
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 hmm, i am seriously considering one of those....to lock my car to.
you think the council will mind me fitting one to the street outside my house? Secure on-street parking!
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Even embedded in the concrete floor of a garage you could have that Kryptonite Stronghold thingy out with a few well aimed blows with a good pick-axe...
...my solution was this...
when building the house I got the builders to bury two locks in the concrete. One was an motorcycle lock (hardened steel and all that shite) and the other had been recently used to secure a JCB at night. These locks were buried with enough space to fit a good D-lock or a good solid chain through (so they stuck up out from the concrete by about 2 inches). I use 'em to lock the bikes to if I'm away for a weekend or longer. I reckon the locks will outlast the bikes!
:)
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I had My Stumpjumper and Mountvision stolen from my garage a week after I moved into my house, the insurance company payed up after about 9 weeks. My new bike is chained to a bracket on the wall now. You just have to make it as hard and noisy as possible for the lowlife thiefs to gain entry and steal your stuff. Bring back corporal punishment for bike thefts.
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 You're welcome to try, Craig. It ain't shifting. Cleverer people with pointier and heavier tools than you or I have tried.
Your solution is one of the cheaper ones I was thinking of but is somewhat predicated on not having a garage floor yet...
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how about putting it under a shelving unit or something? i.e. make it hard to access. then run a beastie chain to bikes. that and pacri bolts on the garage door
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 Hmmmm, problem is, in my garage I've also got an angle grinder.
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 it's quite dificult to have a few well aimed blows with a pickaxe when there's something parked ontop of it, though that principle might not work with a mountainbike, but like all these products they're a deterrent, if someone's gonna nick something they will, the noise they will make getting it out of the ground will attract enough attention, if you epoxy the thing to the floor as well as epoxying the bolts into the concrete then it does become bloody difficult to remove, they would have to chisel a sizeable amount of concrete to get it out, probably damaging whatevers being knicked in the process, the weakest link though is the chain that you use to bolt to the anchor, that's what the the scroats will go for, groundanchors come in all shapes and forms, just check out Motorcycle securiyt products for arage storage and you'll find an alladins cave of groundanchors etc.
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 I use two buckets (one for each bike) filled with concrete and enbedded a steel loop in the bucket. Very , very heavy and can be used in doors and moved around ( just) Cheap too and no tools required.
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 hmm, how about supergluing every component of the bike to the garage floor, rendering it useless to any thief.
The point of a lock is that it must be practical and a deterrant. the greatest lock on earth can still be hacked, given time.
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the other detterents to thieving gypsy bastards that I employ are called Pero & Star, they have access to the garage whilst I am out and all but the most determined robbing bastard is gonna think twice about my house when he sees a rotty (X) and a husky (X) lolling about.
The one I prefer though is to be out on my bike!
:)
Mike, seriously dood, it might take me a few hours but I'd deffo be able to pick out a hunk of concrete with a floorlock embedded in it... :)
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 Yeah, but if it takes hours then that's good enough. In the real world you're going to go and find something easier to nick.
Also my shed's so tiny that you couldn't get a swing at it, so you'd have to demolish the shed first ;-)
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Buy a ground anchor from a motorbike shop. Their cheaper and stronger plus they'll have a bigger range than a bike shop. If you can't fit it yourself ask them to recommend someone. Most groundworkers will fit one for you for £20 not bad when your paying upwards of £50 for the actual anchor may as well get it fitted properly. I have a garage post instead, a metal post that pushes against the garage door. If you try to force the door it presses against it http://www.armourengineering.com/GarageGuard002.jpg its similar to this. I had a brick drive so I just took some bricks out and used a lot of concrete. Better that they are detered from getting into the garage than they get in see the ground anchor and nick all your tools instead.
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 I'm with Craig - found my house was impervious to attention once people knew I owned a Dobermann ( use to have a Rotty as well) - Deerhound now in charge
Noise and chance of being eaten - generally means a safe bike - that said 0 the bucket idea looks good
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 I think I'm going to invest in one of these as they seem to be pretty discreet and unintrusive.
Hopefully in the future I'm going to buy myself a pickup...it wouldn't surprise me if I could put one on that too :)
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The other good way to protect against bike theft is to have your no.1 bike locked up securely then right next to it place your old bike or a crappy one (unsecured or just locked with a chain) the opportunistic thief will then just steal the easier of the two.
:)
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 Any tips for securing bikes in a shed? I don't have a garage so securing to a wall is out. I like the bucket idea, but what else can I do?
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 Ade
Get a shead alarm these are DIY fittable for about £15 i got a glass break sensor from maplin and wired it in series to a reed switch if you kick or bang the door hard the alarm will go off 10 seconds after the entry tone Fit the sounder inside the shed so the theves cant cut the cable to the sounder and make it painfull to stay in the shed
Get some good locks for the door (a 5 lever BSI approved yale should keep the insurance co happy)
Get a PIR floodlight which covers the shed If you can get one with a plug in chime and plug it in to the socket in your bedroom The chime bleeps when the light is activated you can then look out of your window and if someone is breaking in give them the twatting of thir life *( just dont do a Tony Martin if there are going to be witnesses)*
make the garden a pain to get into grow Holly and other spikey plants to deter people coming over the fence
Gravel round the shed it is sounds noisy when walked on in the quiet of night
Board the windows of the shed so no one can see in or use steel bars to stop them smashing the glass to get in.
Get a dog bowl and put it by your back door and a few beware of the dog signs for your front and back gate (preferably the ones with a picture of a rotweiler on)
If you have a light in the shed replace the pendent with a switched pendent so even if you throw the normal light switch and you have turned the light off at the pendent when you locked up it wont light up so they wont be able to see what they are doing.
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 Any lock can be beaten in about 2mins with a good angle grinding blade, seriously they've tested them all on motorbikes the average chain lasts 30seconds against such a attack.
Making it, Noisy and hard for the average low life brain dead theif is key, my bike is locked to the radiator in the kitchen by a lock that looks really good, it isn't sadly but it looks it.
that and if I hear a angle grinder in the middle of the night, they are going to be in big big trouble.
If your in a garage connect a blank shot gun cartridge to it, with a plunger on a trip wire, saved my mates motorbike, deathens the scum :)
Try not to let to many people aware there is a bike there, maybe hide behind a crappy bike ???
If you can kill the power to the garage to stop them using your angle grinder that would be cool to, although battery operated ones exist but they are slower and weaker.
End of the day, have some saving ready to replace your bike, if the worst should happen while the insurance pay out.
and if you do catch them, anything goes but no witnesses :) and it was all in self defence.
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