well that's the whyte 46 on hold, until i can try out one of those shiney beauties.
When will the review be do you think?
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 So they finally sorted that swing arm out then (looks familiar).
Don't forget folks as with Blur's and Superlights You do the Demo testing to show up the frame breakages.
Could almost be as good as an Intense ;-)
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 I've gotta say, that top-tube isn't working for me. Hopefully it'll be a grower, a different colour might help, in different light.
Oh, just turn the lights out...
...that's better
;)
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 It looks better in real life. I rather like it ;-)
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 It just looks... deformed to me
Like you say, it should look better in real life
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 Another expensive American machine in the BM news. 'Shiny' BTW.
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 That's a mighty big chip you're developing on your shoulder there, John ;-)
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I'm game. Do I send my credit card details direct to Jungle? Anyone for a 2003 Patriot that has had a difficult paper round?
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 Just trying to provoke you into looking over the channel rather than the Atlantic Mike. US companies have big marketing machines that feed the media with easy to use copy. All that communication is reflected in the sale price of the bikes concerned.
Some US/Canadian bikes merit the hype, some don't. Count up the number of continental MTBs that have made the BM news in the last year (Nicolai, Univega and Vario). How about a bit of research rather than relying on press releases. I notice because the guys I ride with don't ride the bikes in the BM news. It's as easy to buy from Euro Internet shops as from CRC but they don't advertise on here - yet. Besides I'm feeling left out because I haven't ridden any of the bikes you're all talking about.
I thought I left the chip on my shoulder behind when I left England - is it really growing back?
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 The thing is, we're a UK-oriented site, so we cover bikes that you can buy in UK shops. I honestly don't believe that all that many people are going to buy expensive and complicated bikes from companies without UK distributors. And I'm sorry if we're not proactive enough for you, but it's enough of a job to keep up with the stuff that people can be bothered to tell us about without searching out obscure French shop brands. It's certainly not about American companies having bigger marketing budgets - if it was you wouldn't be seeing the likes of Cotic, Pastey and Dialled on here...
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 Explanation accepted.
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Mike -does it have the immediacy of the Blur in use or is it a bit wallowy?
For what it's worth I wouldn't persoanlly import a bike without a UK importer as I break on average 1.5 frames a year. Effective warranty has a value to me.
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 That's not a 1.5" headset is it?
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 You're not importing from the Eurozone Paul, the UK is part of the european free trade zone ;^)
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Nah - some years it's one frame, some years it's 2 frames. Don't count the twisted road frame that has been straightened and resprayed. Only things which snap count.
1.5 inch frames - not had one yet.
Eurozone? Been trying to import direct form Lupine in Germany and it has been a right old palaver.
If anyone stumbles across a package with 2 helmet mounts and 2 Li-Ion batteries it's mine. Luckily I've paid for it, mind. Hence the reservations about personal import, but don't let me stop you.
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 It's not at all wallowy, feels very like a Blur (only higher up) to pedal but more capable on big stuff.
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'Nuff said. I'm having one.
My mate Dave was sooooooo excited he's already tried to order one from Stif. September they reckon, earliest
Look forward to the full review in a slightly over eager stylee.
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 Another victory for the blue spectacled advertising copywriters. I'm off skiing.
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I have a Blur - it rides superbly on such nonsense as the Meridas, off road C2C and the Alps. Have ridden and owned enough other suspension layouts to be happy with VPP. Being slightly petulant, it's my money and I want one.
For Heaven's sake man - it's damn shiny, there's loads of travel and the suspension design rocks.
Shame about the Dairylea bottom pivot bearings, but nothing's perfect.
Have a good ski.
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 What shock is that on it? Is it a new Fox shox, or just an old design with new stickers? I take it that it has got pro-pedal because the VPP design relies on having a stable platform shock in its longer travel guises.
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