Be interesting too see who fairs best in the Red Bull Road Rage. Be something of an 'away win' if the MTBers pull it off!

When I ride with the local road club during the winter, my MTB mates and I are quicker down the hills than the roadies.

I've never heard of those roadies. They need a 'décendeur' of the calibre of Virinque, Indurain or Merckx.

No, they just need to ride off road occasionally.

Time was when roadies rode cross through the winter and/or played footy like Merckx.

'My' roadies just ride road bikes all the time.

Bit of cross training would probably help

When men were men, eh John?

I reckon that the course is likely to be heavily stacked in the favour of the MTBers to make it look spectacular. I can imagine large 'wall of death' type berms and lots of twisty turns to make braking into the corners and powering out the order of the day.

have you really never heard of steve bauer??

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=978

really quite famous

I've quite often out paced a roadie down hill on a moutainbike, but I thinks that's down to the fact that Sheffield roads would mostly get graded red or black as an off road course due to their tecnical nature, and with big tyres and discs I can just blast through things that be very scary on super thin wheels (they soon catch up on the other side though ;) )

As a fellow Sheffielder I know what you mean DLC. There are some roads near me that I wouldn't go near on a road bike, in fact I don't even like driving on them. Put Paris Roubaix to shame. Cobbles? Pah!

A downhiller on road?

Well, Greg Lemond was superb down the hills, and I don't really think I've seen better.

He nearly ran me over once as well.

"My Roadies" are all triathlete who don't like running through a muddy puddle let alone getting on a MTB and riding through it!

I freely admit to being the pussiest of my group of mtbers on the downhill bits but still thrash the roadies downhill, especially in the wet and outbreaking into corners.

This triathlete loves muddy puddles Tim, they're what we get to swim in when organisers can't find a decent lake for the swim. :)

World Champion MTBer Miguel Martinez got dropped on TDF descents.

John, the fact your on here kinda gives the game away, me too I guess!

My roadies are useless, otherwise teak tough blokes (ex premiership rugby back row forward for one) but scared stiff of not having slicks and tri bars!

Knew a guy who used to be a pro roadie...he met the ONCE squad at the top of L'alpe d'Huez whilst training on one occasion. His team decided that they'd try and earn some credibility by beating them down. He said it was terrifying, every so often there would be a yell, an ONCE rider would then thread his way through them and then carry on down the mountain at speeds greater than they could manage. I guess at the end of the day if you're a pro bike rider you're a pro bike rider and bloody good on a bike! Nuff said.

Who's the back row, Tim? Mail if you can't say here. My rugbybrain is interested!

o whenever I see one on a road, I always make a point of catching and passing him even if it kills me :) guess thats my maturity showing

Everybody rides road bikes and mtbs where I live .

Rumour has it Armstrong and road idiot Sean Yates are in the fray.. Yates used to downhill at 60mph holding the stem for aero speed / and where is Tomac .. he easily won the Kamikaze this year taking over ten seconds out of Kovaric.. one for the old school .. Id like to see that rather than him ruing the failure of his rather rubbish bike company!