 That is a piece of bike and engineering perfection, and it appears to ride better then it looks!
its just so organic, god i would hate to own one and scratch it, i think i would cry for weeks!
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 Oh dear lord, it's the mostest fugliest thing I've ever seen, *atempts to gouge eyes out...*
Surely they could have made it just a little better looking, surely!
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.jpg) I shall ask Santa for one. Will it go down my chimney?
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 can i just say..the lads at stif..let me..yes me.. take one out for the day...
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 I cant see the ugly point .. I ride an IF hardtail which is a beauty, but I really like that bike.. it represent great value for such a niche brand packing so much hi tech.. If only they made a 4 inch sub 5LB version then I would have cheque book in hand. And.. it Will last and last.. I know of three Ibis's still being hammered daily from the first time round.. big up Scott Nicol.. lets halt the advance of everyone riding Specialized and trek!
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 I like that and it has the same back end as an Iron Horse Mk3 so it should ride nice
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 its looks nicer in blue.
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Yeah I like the look of the painted versions more than the carbon too.
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can i just say the bike i took out. i did brake it..the chain came off and got stuck..in the frame and the pivet bolt..the chain bent...i had to rag it out..and it left a right mark in the frame...but i no now..on the new frame..the pivet bolt has been change..its more flater to the frame..you dont get much feed back from the bike...the carbon frame sucks it up...i liked my giant trance better..£1700 for a frame..i think at that price they may be better out there..but who am i to say...and i do think it as the look of a nomad..
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 Christ Baz your making Dylan's replys look easy to read ;)
Having seen some early shots of the frame on other sites where I thought it looked OK, built up I think it looks fantastic <checks bank account>
:( no luck there then :(
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 Dear Santa.......
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 Carbon off road ??? No thanks.
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 I've ridden quite a few carbon bikes quite a lot off road now. They've mostly been crashed and they've all been peppered with rocks. Nothing untoward has happened to any of them. The last bike I actually damaged with rock strikes beyond cosmetic scuffs was aluminium, and heavy aluminium at that. I'm not worried about it any more ;-)
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but think of the scratches!
would make me cry i tell ya
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All bikes get scratched if you actually ride them :-)
There's always frame saver tape.
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 I quite like the look of it, its a blurry/nomaddy/intense kind of look - too expensive for me sadly.
I am going to need a lottery ticket, some premium bonds, a couple of hours and some disposable cash in a casino and a dark alley in a wealthy part of town. One of them should come up trumps!
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Given the choice i would sooner have cosmetic scratches on a metal frame than carbon.
and whilst there is still choice id chose metal over carbon for off road applications everytime.*
(*unless spesh bring in the carbon s-works tricross frame for next year when i'm ready to by a new cx frame ;¬)
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Given the choice i would sooner have cosmetic scratches on a metal frame than carbon.
By definition, cosmetic scratches don't matter. If they do affect the frame, they're not cosmetic :-)
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 Please let my numbers come up!!!!
Scratches wouldn't bother me at all-if you have a high-end frame would you not take it out??
If so pop into Halfords and but a £99 special.
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 I wouldn't like to carry it for any length of time up somewhere like High Street in the Lakes, but it looks pretty good.
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