Tilt of the earth. You must have had your face in the popcorn bucket at that point.

Yep, I cycle to work every day unless I have way too much paperwork to transport.

Worked it out the other day, with cuel prices at their current level & not having to pay for parking I'm saving £12.50 a week if I don't drive into the office at all!

Still doesn't save enough for the frame I want though :o(

saw the trailer for 'arthur' at the cinema, ooooh, keira knightley, droooool...

i hope it's better than troy, i spent nearly all that film thinking, 'that's not the way to assault walls, & 'that's not the way to receive a charge!'

I bike for fun, so biking to work doesnt happen a lot. Biking to work more often would be a good thing, but no shower facilities and being seaty and smelly in an office just doesnt appeal.

according to the day after tomorrow there are only 3 people in scotland, none of them are scottish. Hardly accurate seeing as im here as well so the count should be 4.

rubbish film, too many meaningful looks at camera.

nope dont cycle to work, would be a round trip of 80 hilly miles if i did.

Currently walk to work. Nearly fifteen feet from bed to laptop!

Unfortunately I've not been a regular bike commuter for years, due to distance & lack of showers etc - having to wear shirt & tie etc having ridden 15 miles was never pleasant. And the work sink was only big enough for one hand at a time so not much chance of a good wash! Used to ride once a week in the summer.

I try not to use the car for short trips, but tend to walk as worry about bike security too much. Ideally I'd build up a "banger" of a bike out of bits, but I've knowhere to keep it - flat too small & only allowed one bike in the hall.

I do admit to using car too often when its wet!

i have not bothered with a car since i passed my test 12 years ago.
Take the train to work.
Live in Edinburgh where you dont need a car, just walk/bike where you want to go.

I try and use the bike for short distance journeys. I'm not sure there's a huge cost advantage to doing so, bearing in mind the amount I spend on bike related stuff, but around York it's almost always faster, espcially given you can go directly to your destination rather than drive and walk from the carpark.

What pisses me off is that although inner York is quite well suited to biking compared to most UK cities, the modern out of town shopping developments are not at all. Most have a few token bike lanes, but the lanes end on busy junctions and often you are either forced into traffic or have to face the wrath of the rent-a-cop security guards for daring to ride on the pavements. Worse yet most of the cities bike routes are aimed at getting you from suburbs into town and few cross town so you end up having to ride on the bypass which is scary even for experienced cyclists.

The connection between out of town car based retail development and obesity can't be a coincidence as the average person has become car bound and fat in the last 10 years.

i ride to work as often as i can cos the traffic is awful.

the size of the island, i'd say the average distance for poeple's commute to work is about 3 miles... and almost EVERYONE drives.... it's sickening!

so i try to ride every day.

plus it's SO much quicker to drive, i have showers at work and it wakes be up a little.

I don't have a car, and I cycle to college. It's only 2 miles or so, but is unfortunately 2 miles vertically upwards :(

Coming back down the hill rocks though...

Can cope with bike and train except for massive food shops. Unfortunately Sainsbury's have cottoned on to me and stopped putting free internet delivery vouchers in the paper. Curses!

Think I may be a bit of a bad example. I reckon biking adds more than a 1000 miles a year to car use as I go on nice days out for riding and the occasional commuting probably only claims back 600 or so. Sorry.

I used to cycle the 7 miles to work at least 3 times a week, now I've changed jobs and its a 35 miler each way I've not yet done the round trip, just got my wife to drop me in and cycled home - no fuel saving but a good training session.

However planning the first round trip on Thursday weather permitting.

Break out the bicycles

Oil is running out, but the west would rather wage wars than consider other energy sources

George Monbiot
Tuesday June 8, 2004

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1233533,00.html

. . . Just as the oil supply begins to look uncertain, global demand is rising faster than it has done for 16 years. Yesterday morning, General Motors announced that it is spending $3bn on doubling its production of cars for the Chinese market. Seventy-four minutes later, we saw the first signs of entropy: the International Air Travel Association revealed that the airlines are likely to lose $3bn this year because of high oil prices. The cheap carriers complained that they could be forced out of the market.

If the complexity of our economies is impossible to sustain, our best hope is to start to dismantle them before they collapse. This isn't very likely to happen. Faced with a choice between a bang and a whimper, our governments are likely to choose the bang, waging ever more extravagant wars to keep the show on the road. Terrorists, alert to both the west's rising need and the vulnerability of the pipeline and tanker networks, will respond with their own oil wars.

"Every time I see an adult on a bicycle," HG Wells wrote, "I no longer despair for the human race." It's a start, but I'd feel even more confident about our chances of survival if I saw George Bush and Dick Cheney sharing a car to work.

I ran stat's a few months back, something like 8years left of oil in the USA and the UK. Saudi's got 100+ years, although there output will likely increase to fill the UK and USA gap, bring them down to 30 - 40years.

Think beyond Pump prices, think how can the USA or UK defend themselves from a up and coming super power, if they have to rely on there oil from someone else.

The up and coming super power is China, doesn't the new space race with them, remind you of the cold war with Russia ??

Don't worry, if China does decide on world domination, it'll be 10 - 20 years out easy, but with there over population it'd sure make sense.

maybe the quicker oil runs out, the better. it'll stop them pumping out the fumes into the atmosphere and *force* them to think about something else.

Cycle to work most days unless I sleep in than come into work with girlfriend in car.

No excuse for bad weather now summer is here so should be on bike 5 days a week.

not long cycle only 3.5 miles to work no matter which way I go but some drivers .......... don't get me started :)

Nah I want a damn good ice age, Ice Climbing in the UK in June would be so nice :)

Although there's a lot of mention of oil running out in the media I think that oil isn't about to run out, just that demand is getting bigger and supplies seem to be getting harder to get.

Currently there is very strong growth in demand from places like India and China, and the US seems unlikely to adopt any conservation measures anything soon (just look at the fall in avg. gas mileage in the US), and yet few new giant fields have been found and many traditional sources of oil like the North Sea are in steep decline. Not only that, but new discoveries are becoming more expensive to produce as all the 'easy' oil is depleted, and the traditional source of cheap oil, ie the middle east which is full of geologically easy oil, is becoming more difficult to extract oil from due to politically nstability.

Result, market forces push prices higher, and that is unlikely to change. In a way this is a good thing as it means alternatives to oil become more competitive, and will hopefully be developed to maturity before oil starts getting really scarce.

Personally I think it's insane that we in the west have become even more dependant on cheap oil, in everything from just-in-time delivery in the supply chain, out of town shopping, long car based commutes, frequent air travel, food flown in from the other side of the world and yes, gas hungry 4X4s just before the proverbial shit hits the fan and prices spiral. As consummers have become used to these benefits it's going to be much harder and a political liability to try and reduce wasteful behaviour, so sadly governments rather than take some pain now for long term advantage, are going keep on as is and sod the long term consequences. Just look at US energy policy as an example of gearing policy around not offending consummers today but doing everything from drilling in wildlife refuges to massive military involvement in oil rich countries to keep the cheap oil flowing.

I just wonder what will prevail, of the two choices, in reducing dependance on cheap oil now, or formulating foreign policy to secure supplies now? The UK seems to be putting a foot in both camps by putting high taxes on energy and being involved in oil regions militarily. Many consummers see any attempt to change their behaviour as gross interference in their own lives ignoring the millions of other people whose lives have been changed to secure their 'right'.

I bike to work everyday...... only cos we cant afford to run x2 cars. It not far though not enough to build up a sweat.

The good stuff on a bike is ruined though cos we take the car to the gym!

Is there any sillier sight than people on bike machines in a gym who have driven there? I used to see them all the time on my ride home... all lined up against the glass wall of the gym, looking over the Park while they sweated away, while I was enjoying the fresh air.