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It's official....America is getting it's "Arse Kicked" in Iraq.
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its the murder bit that still confuses me.

if you had a gun dyl and some one else had one and they shot at you.

would you shoot back ?

if so would you take the time and care to wound them beyond their capability to shoot back ?

or would you shoot back with no concern to anyone other than your self ?

have you ever been in a situation like this ?
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i would be shooting ! regardless of who it was if i had a shootah and there was shots coming my way then damn right i would be shooting
fuck the world, fuck politics but FFS dont fuck over the every day man becuase he tries to make a living.
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yeah man thats about the long and short of it baron at the end of the day the soldiers out there are on shit money doing a shit job they cant win whatever! *hopes jimbo is keeping his head down out there*
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agree with you matty and baron, the soldiers are only doing there job it was the politicans that cocked up in the start.
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'this thread is closed'
right well the wife just came into the room naked looking for her book.

call me optimistic but im going to see what shes reading :)
Nothing against the soldiers, they shoulda shown more judgement, before going in for sure though, Blair and Bush should be held responsible for War Crimes, and alot of others.

I'd shoot them to Kill, and I would confirm my target in order not to get shot in the back, don't get me wrong, butt......

I wouldn't be breaking into there house, in the first place, for them to be shooting at me, without a damn good reason, there is no reason or the reasons they are using are BS.


As I've said before, if they said, where going to Invade Iraq for Oil, and strategic importance, yeah fine no worries, thats war, not hide behind stupid bogus WMD and Terrorist CRAP.

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"Nothing against the soldiers, they shoulda shown more judgement"

since when is the Army a democracy?
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true enough kato
Even the Army is supposed to have rules, like not attacking until every political avenue has been tried, Saddam was backing down on alot of issues, so that alone made it illegal, he just couldn't present his WMD and hand them over, because he didn't have any.

Bet he wishes he had them to hand over hey.


as an ex squaddie i hope you guys dont mind me sitting this one out for a change as i think my point would be better proved.
"Even the Army is supposed to have rules, like not attacking until every political avenue has been tried,"

LOL

a squaddie makes that decision ?

hahahahahah.

get real.
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'War is nothing but a continuation of politics by other means'

Karl Von Clausewitz
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! my lip is bleeding.
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stop biting it then
When the politicians say go and do your job, the Armed Forces (It wasn't just the Army out there you know) go and do their job, simple as that. If you don't it's called mutiny and you can still get shot for it - still in Queens Regulations even after all this time....
No Iraq was volunteers only I'm pretty sure, you coulda requested not going and got transfered into another unit.

Prison Sentence, worst case, or murdering innocent iraq's ?? hmmm tough choice that.

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"No Iraq was volunteers only I'm pretty sure, you coulda requested not going and got transfered into another unit"

I think you'll find you erong there Dylan

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