i've just noticed

YOU'RE GETTING XT HUBS, THEY COME WITH GOOD SKEWERS!

LOL, indeed they will!

As a rule I stay clear of titanium QR's and anything is isn't Shimano or Mavic when it comes to skewers

If you're a bit worried go for these ones clicky they're the same as Mavic QRs IIRC.

What's 'safety' about them goog?

They come with skewers? Cool, sorted then...

:)

They have that snappy cam lock the same as Mavic have but on-one call them softy skewers for some reason.

lol!

Hmm, they do look like Crossmax ones, so they'll end up rattling and then the levers will fall off!

I agree with Kato, titanium is an inherently poor metal to make a skewer out of, it's just too stretchy, not a great property for a skewer!

Stick with you Shimano ones.

Yep, steel Shimano skewers every time. Cheap, work brilliantly, never had a single problem with them in 15 years of using various pairs.

I bent a steel Deore skewer this weekend. In fact it's so bent at the ends it won't come out of the hub by itself

How? That's pretty serious effort to bend a skewer in situ. Someone I know once slightly bent a rear QR on a single speed, but in fairness, it should have had a more solid axle.

I bought hope skewers last week for my ride at the weekend.

I was warned it was my neck and head.

but all i said was surely they can't sell them if they always come loose.

Well apparently they can!!!

shimano straight back on and mistake.

:)

well you did warn me john but did i listen

no, no I did not

(but to be fair I had already ordered them)
:)

I have only ever run shimano and they have never let me down.

If i changed them i would be doing so for asthetical reasons, not function.

If they brought them out in different colours they would clean up.

I'm just pleased you've found out without hurting yourself Jim.

My own experience is that all the skewers with the Hope type cam on the end of the lever design (I've also used Kore and the ones with "pat 71510") tend to work loose when used with a suspension fork. Shimano ones open from the fully closed position a few degrees but then stop. After a friend's front wheell came out and he broke his collar bone I've relegated all the non-Shimano skewers to road bikes with lawyer tabs.

Never had an issue with Hope steel skewers, yes I do them up pretty tight, and sometimes it can be a bit of a hassle getting them open again at the end of the day, but never had any issues once they are done up!!!

If they were faulty they wouldn't keep on making/selling them.

I'll continue using my Hope skewers until the time they fail and I smash my teeth out again.

I should make clear that 'work loose' doesn't necessarily mean the lever has visibly moved (but on occasions has). It means that the wheel has moved in the dropouts leading to disc brake rub and/or the QR was significantly easier to undo than it should have been given the brute force needed to close it.