saint?
3pc cromoly bmx type?

it turns out cheaper than rf evolve dh, and i've gone totally off truvativ now, so much for isis!

right, i replaced the bb, then tried it out, still creaked a bit, turns out the splines are nackered on the crank, when riding up to bike shop, dropped off a kerb, and crunch, all splines gone

They havent invented a bike part strong enough that you cant break Mike!

Face it, yer a riding menace. A one man demolition crew.

Shimano HT II, you may break the bb but i reckon the cranks are about as strong as you can find. For Saint read LX without the dark paint.

BMX cranks and BBs need a bigger shell. The fine splined O/S axles have the same small bearing problem as ISIS in an MTB shell. So Saint it is. Not too heavy either. How big are the kerbs round your way Mike?

Saint weighs a ton,but is good.

hobo, saint is the tough one

hone is the fake lx

i could've sworn there were some 3pc that had mtb bb's....

and kerbs? not that big, but when you add the foot or 2 that i jump.... (it makes it more fun!)

1200 grams or so is reasonable compared with nearly two kilos for the BMX cranks.

weight isn't a problem btw, reliability is

For Saint read LX without the dark paint.

What Mike said. Hone = black LX. Saint is another level of heft ;-)

Answer the question rather than concentrating on my errors ;-)

Ok i meant Saint. However, i for one cant see how anyone this side of 20st or a freeride god can get anywhere near the stress levels you would need to kill LX. I just cant see it.

TBH truthfully you have only killed a bb (To be expected) and damaged the splines so that doesnt suggest that you could actually 'damage' a LX more than you could a Saint. They still have the same spline interface and bb. Carrying weight for no reason imo.

Oh mike ygm

"carrying weight for no reason"

well, how can a 12st person buckle a ex325?

my easton bars are slightly bent downwards for chrissakes!

time to get me a dh machine

Go cro mo

Do you ride DH? If so you need a dh rig. If not yer gonna spoil your enjoyment of riding.

If you ride XC and keep breaking things at 12st, i am over 12st, you need to look at how you ride cos people carrying 3st more are having no problems with the kit your breaking.

Maybe yer hitting things on the trail that others wouldnt. A bit of awareness of what will & wont hurt yer bike.

erm, i'm not scared of a few drops, but i do do a few dh runs at lordswood which are a bit tame tbh...

i found a un73 and a rpm c2yf to keep me on 2 wheels for now :-)

my easton bars are slightly bent downwards for chrissakes!

Sure they haven't just rotated in the stem?

nope, as crap as my stem is, they're still lined up the same according to those little lines on the front

grr, risers for me next time

mike, know of any bike companies' r&d departments that need some serious product testing? lol

i'm getting bored of this though, tomorrow i finish exams, then jobhunting!

a general "tough" bike for me!

Woo Yay!

Cranks are getting ordered today :-)

but, do i get the double + bash, or the triple. bear in mind i've pleanty of 44t chainrings from various cransets that i've destroyed, but i have no bash rings

You could go for a set of FSA pounders, steel 3 piece cranks with an ISIS BB, you would never break them in a trillion billion million hundred thousand and twenty four years.

"ISIS BB" *shudder*

what about the DMR cranks, iirc they're the equivalent to a 3pc for mtb, they use ht2 bb's (either them or charge)