As in when it comes from CRC, I check my tension frequently, had a vague feeling for weeks while turning, lost the spoke tool, recently found and very loose.

Spokes stretch and need re tensioning frequently I find.

Not had any problems with my spokes stretching.

Monthly job for me, and I'm not using cheap spokes or rims.

But I do like my wheel build to be very tight and stiff.

Do you use a tensionmeter?

i thought re-tensioning spokes was A Bad Thing?; once the spokes had been stretched they couldn't be re-stretched?

btw, when i was building i used the 'ping' test to determine uniform tension.

As Roger says a properly built and de-stressed wheel should not need any retensioning, especially not after the first ride. You should get all the twisting and "ping" out of the spokes as you build and tension the wheel in the first place.

Even CRC destressed wheels, which come nice and tight, 5 rides in, are to loose and floppy for my likings.

Only spokes I've had break where on that crappy Trek wheel, cheap spokes, so I plan to continue.

My spokes are tensioned such that, if you were to put a twig in the chainstay it would play a merry little tune as you rode....I should really look into that.

Are you using double/triple butted spokes Dyl?

They may have a weight limit??

;¬)

All the wheels i have had built by Melin, have never needed anything done to them ever!
Dylan, Maybe you shouldnt be buying wheels from CRC?

or maybe its you messing with them, that means they need retensioned frequently. As an experiment, get some new wheels and just leave them alone. See how you go.

Hey Roger, I'm not that fat. I use no butted for max strength.

Fraser :-

CRC deliver the wheels, next day, Merlin 2 - 3 weeks.
CRC wheel builds have been better than Merlin's of recent, I was once a Merlin wheel build fan to.

Leaving them alone ='s crap handling, so no.

Well, you've certainly put me off every getting wheels built by CRC.

My last Merlin build was April last year. the wheel was built and delivered within three days. Was perfect, and is still going strong, without putting a spoke key anywhere near it.

Hope Pro IIs on mavics

It just seems strange that you need to retension them so often.

I haven't touched mine for months and they're running fine.

Agree with Fraser,don't touch.

But I like and at 16stone need REALLY right spokes, I hate the vagueness from any slack at all.

Front which went slack recently also newest wheel, is a DT6.1 on Pro2, so not a weak XC build.

I'd likely jump on both of your bikes and want the spokes tightened.

What spokes are they?

You've specified the hub and rims but not the spokes and they are the most important part.

sorry but dyl .... a good built wheel will not need retensioned as much as your doing.

ive toured on road wheels (mavic cpx33 on hope monos with sapim double butted) with 12 stone of me and 3.5 stone of kit on the back over the rough roads up in the scottish highlands just fine

ive built wheels for riders of 6 foot 6 and 18 stone who have ridden them hard on gate like cove stifees

never have issues like that

cheap wheels aint worth the hassle .... ive yet to see a good build from CRC or merlin ... there adaquate but there far from good

roger mussons wheel pro wheels are the only mail order wheel id buy above building my own (which ive done for 8 years now, my first couple of wheels did as your wheels seem to be doing but once i got propper taught by an experianced wheel builder and got plenty experiance behind my self it was all gravy)

The difference between a good build and a bad build is 20mins of re tensioning, so it's not really a issue.

IMHO.

But in between tensioning the rim could become weaker and collapse.

I had a pair of wheels off Roger Musson(spl),they were really nice.Didn't have any problem with them whatsoever,defnately woth the cash.

Nice to see he's started up again.

The difference between a good build and a bad build is the need for 20 minutes retensioning.

the difference between good build and bad build is years of service ...

not 20mins of retensioning ... if thats all it was you wouldnt be having the current problems of them coming loose ...