where the hell did this come from.

anyway On one over shoes are much cheaper and you will soon get fed up with them in anything but the worse weather.

Why am i typing this, the chances that the original poster has not yet bought his over shoes in 7 years is remote, plus i doubt he will be back to check his over shoes.

had trouble with Alturas which had velcro fastening under the shoe and kept falling off.

I've got the Addidas ones now and they work much better. I wear them on the wrong feet though, so those horrid large stripes are facing the bike and they are easier to do up. I think the enduras are similar.