Hi, what length Crud Race Guard Rear do i need for a 18" maxlight frame, long or short?

go long

And if you want it (or any mud guard) to actually catch all mud, keep it within 2-3" of the tyre so that none can go flying past the sides. I hate to see them 1-2 foot up in the air doing sod all and looking a complete twat.

Rant:

People really have no idea or understanding of how things work. Mud for example does not go only in a straight line, the tyre flings it at all angles so it needs to be caught early when the deviation is still shallow.

Byeee.

'Tis an excellent guard though, one of the few actually wide and long anough to do the job. Looks nice too.

I like mine anyway.

they just need to produce a decent front guard, which covers turning the wheel and the front of the wheel. that would stop all the shit going into my eyes...

They do - Oakley calls them Half Jackets, and the prevent loads of shit going in my eyes!

yeah, but it then stays there, thus having a longer vision imparing effect, untill you wipe it off.

do you all recommend long?

yeah

Yup.

And yes, a long front mudguard that stops your shoes getting filled with stuff and the downtube getting chipped, somebody make one PLEASE, it's only an extra 8-10" curved piece of plastic on the lower part for christ sake.
May not be prettiest but for commuting and long rides it'd be a godsend.

Hiya,

A complete twat here - maybe, just maybe we have a different philosphy to you. Maybe that "roostertail" of shit that evades crud catchers (because they aren't proper full length mudguards), when they are in the down position gets on our nerves. Maybe we aren't bothered about mud splatted legs, but are not too keen on cack on the back of the neck.

Who knows eh? Maybe if you cycle a bit faster.

As for your downtube, look up helicopter tape, oh and a full front mudguard won't stop you getting your feet wet when you splash through water.

Gotta agree with Heald here. Surely the main point of a crud guard offroad is to keep your ass and back dry.

If you have a tall bike, having the guard right down by the wheel gives you entirely the wrong angle which means that you still get splattered legs and it accumulates mud rather than letting it drop off as there's not enough clearance to the wheel.

This sounds like a love in....

Theres also the added benefit of being able to lower the saddle on the steeper descents.

I need to have a word with Senor Tompkins, he needs to make a rear crud guard to fit on to the swingarms of rear bouncy bikes, so that it catches it all AND moves with the wheel.

Pete. You listening?

Rear Guards are bugger all use on my freerider, 6inches of travel means it needs to sit way way to high :( fine on the HT though.

I can't take glasses so front mug guard on both bikes, riding in damp weather with glasses just gets you misted up dirty glasses with bugger all chance of cleaning them :(

'Having the guard down by the wheel gives you entirely the wrong angle' ?????
What you on?
The angle can be adjusted and fine tuned so that, like my guard, NOTHING gets past it, and it don't look stupid.
I ride very fast which is why mudguards have to be spot on 'cos of ye olde centrifugal force which way over comes forward momentum. And yes toes do get wet with a decent mudguard, but shoes don't get filled with crap, and the aforementioned centrifugal force at speed means that with the current shorter front guards, it's not just the downtube or shins that get covered, its the chin/lower face area also, and anything in between, there is no intention of slowing down- what's the point??

Anyway, thats my two penneth, not having a go at y'all at all, just clearing up the issue, and remember, it's just my personal preference here, not a dictatorial.

Byeeeeeee.

You are funny - I like the way you misconstrue half my post.

I'm presuming that your rear mudguard is about 6 foot square. Oops, must remove the sarcasm, I presume it's very long and very wide to be able to stop anything getting past it. Does the wind resistance not slow you down a little? Or is it good for drifting down a 30ft huck safely?

I'm surprised that at such a low angle with the standard (short or long) crud catchers that you are able to prevent all the cack going up your back (never mind catching all the mud), if you have it only a couple of inches above the tyre, you must truely be the Lance Armstrong of Crud Catcher Adjusters. I'd bow and all that but you can't see over the T'internet.

As for your continuing confusion on front mudguards, I mentioned that even with a full front mudguard you will still get your feet wet. You however mentioned:

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And yes, a long front mudguard that stops your shoes getting filled with stuff
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then in your next post tell me

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And yes toes do get wet with a decent mudguard, but shoes don't get filled with crap
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At what point exactly did I mention about cack going into shoes? Hummm? To be honest the only time cack gets into my shoes is when I take them off/not wearing them. My point, which seems to have passed you by, was that a full mudguard is not going to stop your feet getting wet. Personally I don't like dripping wet feet, but you seem to be obsessed with cack in your shoes... Clean them out first prehaps, or you could spoil yourself and tie/strap them up properly.

I would also like to point out the fact that even with a full old fashioned mudguard that water/cack would be sprayed in front of you at high speeds and hit you in the face - not just on the current shorter mudguards, oh and who mentioned slowing down? Is that voice bothering you again? Try upping the Haloperidol dosage.

As a final note, I like the disclaimer, it's almost like the microsoft ones.

Now then!!

But I have a 'full' (3/4 length- full rear part but only about 3" front of forks) guard on me other ATB commuter and never get any spray in the face from front wheel only road spray and rain.

I only want a longer guard for when commuting or going long distances, it keeps the lower leg dry if not the toes, so is far more comfortable and practical- working all day in wet trouser bottoms and socks is very unpleasant or carrying half a wardrobe in me bag to change into. Toes dry out somehow.

I wear overshoes that go up to knee these days.

The crud guard is only 2-2.5" away from the tyre at the foremost part, the rearmost tip is about 6-8" away from tyre on a horizontal plane which gives the longest possible extension.

I came home day before yest. in a torrential downpour through the woods which were nice 'n sloppy and my back was clean other than about five or so drops that you get from going over bumps which shakes the guard and momentarily allows slight passage. I have a Zefal swan on the front of that bike and have to say my face was spotless, so you win that one on this occasion.(Not a competition though, just figure of speech)

Disclaimers (Like this one!) because I can come across wrong and people on here are often hot headed, get the wrong idea, and start bitching wildly!

I'd e-mail you a pic if I knew how to!

Anyway, Tata chap, it's been interesting.