Decided that I need a new set of forks. My Pace Fighters have frustrated the hell out of me and after biting the mud hard twice this weekend due to packing down due to a lack of rebound. I've run out of patience.

If you were me with a Nicolai Helius CC used for all mountain riding what would you go for?  I need at least 140mm. So the Fox's would seem to be the currrent flavour of the month.  

That should read "packing down due to too much rebound damping". Just wind the rebound damper off.

Pike? Coil revelation?

At least 140mm seems a lot for 120mm bike. 

What John says........

I can't fault my coil Revs for the money.

It packs down no matter what you do to the rebound adjuster!

Worked perfectly for the first 12 months and been nothing but a pain since.  Your right 140 mm is the max the bike will take and 130 mm or 120 mm rides far better in most conditions.  

So far Rockshox - Pike and Revelation are the views so far. 

Any views on the Magura Thor?  The local bike shop is raving about them.

Any views on Fox 32 Talas?

I've not used the latest Talas but the recent Fox forks I have tried have had absolutely spot -on damping to the point where, say, and F120, feels like it has more travel than it actually does because everything is so well controlled.

That said, I have history with self-destructing Fox fork tubes. Right now I'd probably go for a Pike - or '09 Rev with Maxle Lite - from TF Tuned with the Push upgrade to the rebound damping circuit. Awesome fork, stays calm beyond the point where the stock Pike gets a bit pannicked, get the U-Turn version and you can adjust travel to suit.

Pace Fighters are luverly forks,  they just need a oil change / service much cheaper than a new fork ( horrible rebound adjustment position though,  just stupid design )

stays calm beyond the point where the stock Pike gets a bit pannicked

When do they get panicked? I've done DH days on em with a far too soft spring and they coped admirably ....I fink thez blinin bludz

Pace Fighters are luverly forks,  they just need a oil change

I wasn't overly impressed with Si's Dylan; they felt like they contained elastic bands

As for Fox, I know they're probably too big for your Pike but my 08 36 Vans are fantastic, as are the TALAS's.

I reckon the Fox 32's with new 15mm bolt thru might be worth a look though..

Worked perfectly for the first 12 months and been nothing but a pain since.

A service?

I hadn't realised how bad my 36's had got, until I rode them after a service.

Si only had XCAM 130mm versions,  can't remember if they where coil or air,  yeah the rebound speed it generally quite fast.

Paul's ie Sinead's BF has the Fighters there very nice,  stupidly light for there travel if your into that kinda thing,  plushest forks ever but better damping would be nicer 10wt oil would likely sort it though.

Juan you need the dual damping of the 09's ( well in the Reba's dunno if they've rolled it out all round yet ),  fast action for small hits so it'll respond better for rock gardens and feel less locked out as it'll extend more between hits and slow for big hits so less pogo like without having to sit in the middle compromised for both.

Can't see how damping,  would make them sit higher in the travel though.

Pikes are generally great, but the rebound damping sometimes gets a bit overwhelmed with repeated sharp hits, like really caning it through Peak rock gardens

Rock gardens? In the Peaks????

;-)

Can't see how damping,  would make them sit higher in the travel though.

That would be compression damping, then. 

He had both in the end didn't he,  there fast rebound wise,  there a XC fork not a jumping / landing hard fork remember just with 150mm of travel.

Thanks guys. Thats a wrap.   Yes I have had the Pace forks serviced 5 times in two years.  The last time by Pace at the beginning of the summer.  When everything is straightforward then no problem - but then so would a pogo stick. Its rock gardens or steep drop offs with a sharp rise immediately afterwoulds that cause the problem (as for jumps I've given up). The Pace ends up packed down and I'm totally dependent on momentum to get me out of trouble. Its causing me to lose my nerve and thats not a good feedback loop to get into.  Yes I have changed the amount of air - upping it to be a pretty hard ride. I've changed the travel. I've moved the rebound dial everywhere.  No joy really.  As I said before absolutely great - best ever forks for 12 months (possibly 18 I may have exaggerated in my anger) then just awful - fussy, finicky and the maintenance has been bloody expensive.   

Pushed Pike and the Fox 32s seem to be the answer.  Though I don't know what weight of oil has been used in the Pace and whether changing that may make a difference.  Good thought though.