why not buy from these people

http://www.dotlight.de/en/LEDs/LED-High-Power/CREE-LEDs/Cree-Emitter-Optics

or direct from the UK manufacture of those other ones.

If you can find the POL 225 there, please buy away

This is for people that specifically want the tightest optic for the MC-E currently out.

I would be interested in one to try but I don't trust the manufacturers claims generaly with regard to optics so would not want to get more than one without seeing it for real. 

I spent last night comparing the 6 specific optics I have for the mce (the three boomerangs and the 3 LM1's)  and for pure throw eg taking a max lux reading the rocket SS designed for the xr-e was best so all told I was not too happy.  results so far here if your interested.  I plan to get one each of what Bram is offering with his groupe buy on CPF.

 Ifor

None of that made any sense to me.

I guess it must be what this forum is normally like to 'normal' people?

None of them look anything special compared to my 38mm ish torch reflector.

I could do with a Approx 33mm Reflector for a P7 any ideas ??