Sorry Hobo, I forgot that not everybody is likely to want to limit the amount of landfill they create and would be content to have to fit a new BB every year instead of spending £120 (or there abouts) on one which is likely to last at least the 5 year warranty period.
Considering there are ceramic BB's / bearings on the market that are being snapped up for a good deal more than that price I'm not seeing a problem with people being willing to go with a King BB.
And seriously, how hard is it to remove a set of cranks these days? Loosen two allen bolts and pull. Not exactly a hardship, is it?
Not poo pooing the idea. It just seems to be based on similar theory to the Grease-Guard headset, which didnt last long at all. If it works properly i will be the first to say £120 is a bargain. I just wont be the person who tests the logic first
Oh and considering the amount of stories i read on STW about people struggling with refitting HTII cranks, i would suggest its isnt as straightforward as its made out. I have to get a friend to refit mine because i dont trust myself to do it properly.
Do you mean the WTB Greaseguard headset that had the lift up seal around the upper bearing cover? Because I'll admit that was pretty pants. Great in California but not where it rains or you get mud.
With King being based in Portland I'd be very surprised to find it wasn't well sealed.
HTII isn't all that bad to fit / remove / fit. It just takes a little getting used to (I used to always feel like there was something I wasn't doing) but now it's just a part of cleaning & checking the bike that gets done with everything else.
The only worry i have is that if grease is allowed to purge out, then i asume that gritty water can get in.
in order to service, first the bearing cover has to be removed with one of the tools. the grease is only seen to purge out when this cover is absent. if one fails to replace said cover afterwards, resulting in the bearings get mashed with gritty water, then that's the fault of the person doing the job, not a design failure on the part of CK
it looks like the bearing cover appears to be just a top hat type arrangement, the grease tool pushes into the seals, and grease purges out of them, I still think that that will be susceptible to water getting in, especially in wet UK conditions. I have heard of CK hubs also being suspect in damp conditions, although they are not common enough to be tested in a range of conditions by people I actually know.
If these BB's do prove to be more reliable than my hope ceramic, I will buy one. But I am not going to rush out to buy one because of the chris king name is stamped on them while I have doubts about the design. Their does seem to be an almost religious suspension of critical analyses and common sense when it comes to some manufactures.
I can attest to the waterproof / sealing capabilities of King hubs. The set on my FXR have been used all over the place (including several river crossings in the UK where the bike was submerged to WAY past hub height) but when I got them apart there was no water inside and no debris of any kind had made its way past the seals. But then I've never had the rumoured loosening of my hubs, either so maybe I'm just lucky.
Their does seem to be an almost religious suspension of critical analyses and common sense when it comes to some manufactures.
I'm gonna wait and see on this, they're hub bearings aren't exactly free running, and I know people say it makes no difference etc, but there must be a loss of energy using bearings with lots more drag. Ceramic bearings by and large require far less effort to turn them, and my Superstar one seems to be holding up just fine.
King will sell a lot of these, but I wonder if they really will be the best thing ever.