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3.89" if you don't mind.

You're quite welcome to borrow mine John but it might be a bit far to travel.

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One of my mates has got one Nobby and he's delighted with it. He's about the same height as me and I'm sure he'd let me try it if I wanted. It'd just be a question of finding someone with a pedal spanner at the end of an event as he uses Time pedals.

An ASR doesn't appeal though (which doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it), I've spent a lot of time on a 4" faux bar with the pivot in the same place as the ASR and a couple of 4" four bars (the Viper and Barbara's Renault). I'm sure that if you gave me both systems to ride with the suspension hidden I could tell you which was which just on the way they behave and I prefer the four bar. I know there are loads of other factors to consider but if you want smooth suspension with minimal interference from braking or chain tension a four bar design is a good starting point.

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I know what you mean John - I wasn't sure about it coming from an FSR with a PUSHed rear. It just seems to suit my (clumsy) riding style & climbs like a goat.

I lost count of how many different bikes I tested before buying it and still can't quite put my finger on the real reason I did.

Of the others, the Anthem & the Turner Flux stand out as good rides.

Edited: 06/11/09 22:03
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Mike Spence wrote (see)
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Not under braking though...

It's not an issue on the ASR.



"Never knowingly underbraked".....

IGMC

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"Never knowingly underbraked".....

IGMC


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No bikes to try this morning, given the conditions it was hardtails all round. I tried the 18" BMC hardtail again and it definitely has a high BB which combined with a high top tube gives a very high standover for my 32" inside leg.
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How tall are you John?
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1m74 and a bit with an 82cm inside leg x .885 = 72.5cm max saddle height. That's somewhere between 5'8" and 5'9" in your money.
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Hmm so the same as me give or take 1/2".  I'll dig out my CycleFit figures to see how they compare.
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They'll probably tell me I need a frame bigger than I like. But post them please up because I'd be interested to see.

Edit: my roadie position is:

  • saddle height 72.2cm with Time pedals and 172.5 cranks
  • saddle nose 6.5cm behind axle with a Flite
  • Bars 6cm below saddle
  • saddle nose to bars 54cm with a Flite 
I like the saddle a bit lower on an MTB and the bars a little higher (and nearer depending on what i'm doing with the bike). Arms are bendy so if the reach is a bit short I just bend them. The nearer the bars are the easier it is to lift the front and get back going down hill.
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OK.

Based on a 84cm inseam, 176cm height.

Seat height 75cm with Time RXS and 172.5 cranks.

Saddle nose 5.2cm behind axle, SLR.

Bars 5.8cm below saddle.

Saddle nose to bars 55cm.

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Almost identical positions then when you take into account you're taller. So what size are your MTB frames Mike? My Viper is 45.5 and the XTC 43. They're both about 57cm long
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That's what I thought.

Orange p7 is a 17".

Cannondale is a M

Yeti is a M

On One is a 16" (went for the smaller one as the 18" was a touch long)

Bianchi's are 57cm.

All were bought with an eye on the effective TT length.  CycleFit suggested a 55 square road fame.

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Thanks for all that Mike, it comforts me in my view that 18" or M frames with 585mm or so top tubes are too big even if that's what the manufacturers' tables often suggest for my height. 

My road race and triathlon frames are various shapes but all 54cm long.

I rang the local Giant dealer in the hope of renting an Anthem for a day but they don't even intend to hold stock. To order only. €3300 but I reckon I could haggle a bit.


 

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