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Long travel forks - how much do you use
 
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Dan : /
19/05/09 17:12

Either lose or gain weight to put yourself more firmly in one camp or the other

b*gger -  being only about half a stone overweight at the moment I'm going to struggle to lose a stone and a half without removing a limb

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chapel gate demon
19/05/09 20:41
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ive said it before somewhere but ye olde technique of sitting on the bike to set the fork sag doesnt work on some of the slacker angled modern bikes.

when i sit on my bike there is no sag. when im in the "attack" position they sink into there travel.

imo there is no one specific magic number in setting up forks. it should be all of the variables working in harmony.

dont just consentrate on getting full travel or the correct ammount of sag, and thats it sorted. you need the fork to be as active as possible yet not bottom out or sink too far into its travel under braking etc, the rebound needs to be fast enough to react to the next hit but not too fast as to make the front and feel like a pogo stick. depending on the fork and the ammount of adjustment available this can some times be a compromise, for example if i set my forks so that they bottom out now and then on a ride they sit too deep into there travel, they bob too much and the head angle is too steep on decsents making the bike twitchy. the compromise being im about 3/4 of an inch off getting full travel, but the ride of the bike and the feel of the forks feels right which is the most important thing id say.

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Jimmy Jazz
19/05/09 20:54
I give mine to Flooks and tell him how fat I am, when they come back they're awesome dude.
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chapel gate demon
19/05/09 22:26
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lol. if i had your money jj id do the same...

dont blame me for my spelling. its the spellcheckers fault, its not working again ive become dependant on it....

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Mike Davis
20/05/09 15:11
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Dan, the copy of the manual I downloaded off the Foes site yesterday says:

Sag can be measured at the rear wheel’s axle or at the shock. These instructions
approach this measurement at the shock. Your XTD Shock should have
3/4” to 1” (6.5” travel) of sag when the rider’s full weight with gear is at rest on
the bicycle.

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Dan : /
20/05/09 16:27

Hmmm..... is that the new air-can FXR Mike?

 My manual is the 2007 one and definately mentions half inch at shock stroke..

http://www.bikemagic.com/members/images/92024/Gallery/fxr_sag.JPG

It's a bit confusing
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Dan : /
20/05/09 16:29
... not that it makes much odds but I think my 2007 FXR is a 6'' jobbie not a 6.5 although according to Jamie they use the same stroke but just a slightly different shock positioning.. or something...
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Mike Davis
20/05/09 16:58
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I think I'd be emailing Foes in the US for clarification
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Dan : /
22/05/09 15:04

..good plan

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Adrian Ward
22/05/09 17:33
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I think a lot of the problem  is the current generation of slack angled bikes,, the forks are less upright causing more stiction,

   this is why when seated often the forks wont sit at ride height but remain topped out, and only sag to ride height when the rider assumes the attack position,,

 but this will help when the wheel hits a large object as the resultant force is more rearwards  than on smaller impacts  , this maybe why these are better on big impacts and less supple on smaller stuff

   it's difficult to know how much sag to use  ,, and if  you should be normaly seated or  in the attack position when it is measured,,,

   i still set up my bikes 30 ish % sag and soft ish so you will use up all the travel  maybe once or twice on a gnarly ride,, ( i dont do Jumping)

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John Gourette
22/05/09 21:05
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Firm spring, 1/3 sag at the back, stop fretting. Clear?
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Dan : /
22/05/09 23:43
hmmm the thing is john that the firm spring will only ever give me two thirds travel and the curnut shock wont allow a third sag . . More like a sixth . .
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Mike! :¬)
23/05/09 12:16
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If you only get 2/3 of the travel, just ride harder
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Droppin-Neutron
23/05/09 12:59
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This is all putting me off Foes a bit its all too complicated - do you still love the bike Dan?
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Dan : /
23/05/09 13:12
if you order a brand new one it's dead simple DP as you order it custom valved to your weight and riding style. The problems arise when you buy one secondhand and its set up for someone else despite them being same weight as you. my curnutt shock is currently as balfa getting set up for me - i shall let you know how it feels once i've ridden it with it giving me full travel!
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-Andy-
23/05/09 19:16
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If the bike feels and rides right, don't worry too much about % here and mm there.

Either that or get some floats instead and get the setup dead on, maybe even have two settings, one for peaks and one for DH.

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