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Mark.Reynolds
23/10/09 13:18
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As some Surrey Hills riders will know, the long planned extension to the end of BKB is now very nearly a reality (the trail was temporarily detoured 3 or 4 years ago).

The below is a press release from Hurtwood Control Trust, the charity who manage Holmbury and Pitch Hill (Peaslake) in the Surrey Hills. The release is intended for the local press/parish magazines and so doesn’t really focus on how the trail is also being built to create a more pleasurable and engaging experience more in keeping with the awesome woodland singletrack that the area is popular because of.

If you want to help with the efforts to improve the existing trail system on the Hurtwood there are 2 things that you can do.

1.    Become a Friend of the Hurtwood by paying an annual amount to support all their activities www.hurtwoodcontrol.co.uk (click on Donate Now at the top of the page)
2.    Send an email to mtb@hurtwoodcontrol.co.uk if you would like to volunteer to help with trail building and trail maintenance on the Hurtwood.

Now Barry Knows Better – making mountain biking work in the Hurtwood

Barry Knows Best, or BKB, as the Hurtwood trail is known to the mountain bikers who love its steep cliff face and knotted roots, is about to be made a lot safer for everyone. Now Barry Knows Better.

Thanks to a grant from the Surrey Hills Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty’s Sustainable Development Fund, a major realignment of the trail as it joins Ewhurst Road in Peaslake is now possible. The trail will still be a challenge for riders, but it will no longer be dangerous for bikes meeting the road, cars and other road users and people living in nearby houses.

The project will also prevent damage to the woods caused by bikes trying to find a safer alternative to the old route and reduces conflict with other users by avoiding a key bridleway.

The BKB project is another example of the Hurtwood Control Trust and the mountain bikers working in partnership to manage the increasingly popular sport in this much- loved piece of stunningly beautiful countryside. The success of this cooperative approach can already be seen on Holmbury Hill Fort, where trails have been redesigned and rerouted to protect sensitive archaeology and ensure the bikers can have fun without causing damage.

The challenge for the Trust is to accommodate all the users of the hill safely – walkers, horse riders, children, dogs and all the different types of bike users. Working with a small group of dedicated mountain biker volunteers is proving the most successful way to achieve harmony.

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Mark.Reynolds
23/10/09 13:18
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BKB is on of the most popular single-track trails on Holmbury Hill, with up to 50 bikes an hour riding it at peak times but its exit onto Ewhurst Road has always been a problem. At first it was too close to the houses and caused disturbance, but when the exit was moved further away, it proved too steep and dangerous for bikes and traffic. Braking caused damage to the hillside and bikes created myriad side-tracks as they tried to control their descent to the road, causing still more erosion.

The mountain bikers have investigated possible solutions for BKB. The exit can only be along a short stretch of road because of houses, and needs to be technically challenging to engage experienced riders and dissuade them from going off-piste. The answer is to make the trail longer by creating switchbacks that will provide interest and challenges, while ensuring the trail is sustainable, and will also mean that bikes join the road in a far more controlled manner.

Such major trail construction is beyond the scope of the Hurtwood Control Trust, but with the expert help of former Aston Hill trail builder Ian Warby of the Cyclists Touring Club (CTC), a bid for Sustainable Development Fund money was successful and an experienced digger team from Wales should be on site soon to sculpt the new section of the trail. The volunteers should finish surfacing the trail by the end of the year.

This initiative is being monitored closely by the Surrey Hills AONB as a possible prototype for a wider initiative right across the Surrey Hills. It is recognised that mountain biking is growing in popularity, and management in partnership with volunteer mountain bikers is necessary both to protect the environment and prevent conflict between bikers and other users of the countryside.

For more information on the progress of the BKB project, visit the Hurtwood website
http://www.hurtwoodcontrol.co.uk/.

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Glen Padgham
02/11/09 12:44
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Schtopp - this trail is not ready yet!

The big, visible, phase (digging) is now complete - but the trail won't be available to use until the next phase happens. It might seem a bit subtle, but it makes all the difference - the trail surface needs to absorb water, dry, absorb water, dry etc - and then we will be giving it some tlc and whacking the surface to a lovely fast rolling Surrey Hills crust.

So - please don't ride it until officially cleared. A lot of hard work might be undone otherwise! 

It will be worth the wait, but wait we must.

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Mark.Reynolds
02/11/09 13:40
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as Glen mentions above, it's likely to be weeks rather than days until it has settled down and the old route is still open.

The main area of concern is the main/biggest bermed corner which was being built last right up until it rained so heavily. This meant that the machine wacker plate stuck to the material and so couldn't be used. Therefore we need the whole corner to settle down a bit, dry a little and then get manually bashed by hand (back of a spade).

There will be some volunteer work required to sort this and then close the old line. We also have some bits and pieces to do that the rain prevented the machine from doing before it headed back down the M4 to Wales.

Thanks for your patience and please do get the message out that the new line MUST NOT be ridden or it will be badly damaged.

Please do have a word with anyone that you see tempted to even have a look at the trail - it can't be walked in places either for these reasons.

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Harrison Diederich
22/11/09 16:35
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can i just state it is called      barry knows BEST     btw
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Mark.Reynolds
22/11/09 16:48
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oh dear how embrassing..... for you Harrison.

 A classic 'didn't bother to read the title or thread properly' scenario

The new trail end has now opened btw. Enjoy.

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Harrison Diederich
22/11/09 19:11
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eeeer, no

anyway when did it open because i went down there last weekend and it still had tape everywhere

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Mark.Reynolds
22/11/09 19:22
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?

The title is from the lady that wrote the PR piece stating that BKB was now better.

 Barry Knows Best, or BKB, as the Hurtwood trail is known to the mountain bikers who love its steep cliff face and knotted roots, is about to be made a lot safer for everyone. Now Barry Knows Better.

Get it now? It's a clever play on words like those crazy PR people do.

Anyway - opened Wednesday, maybe Thursday when the Ranger cut the trees down to block the old route and stop shortcutting.

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daftpunk
22/11/09 20:06
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So what is Barry up to now then?
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Nick Evans
23/11/09 11:38
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Knowing better!

It was open yesterday, I felt quite jealous as I pootled past on my road bike, it does look good.

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Nobby
23/11/09 11:45
Worth a trip then?
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Nick Evans
23/11/09 11:52
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Yeah definitely, you should pop over again.

Sadly at the moment I only have a 2010 S-Works Epic and a 2010 Top Fuel 9.9 in my arsenal, neither of which do I intend to use right now, so I may have to borrow a bike from somewhere. Sorry, I'll put my cock away...

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Nobby
23/11/09 11:55

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daftpunk
23/11/09 12:23
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Sadly at the moment I only have a 2010 S-Works Epic and a 2010 Top Fuel 9.9 in my arsenal, neither of which do I intend to use right now

Are you actually saying you don't wantto get your mountainbikes dirty???????

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Mark.Reynolds
23/11/09 12:30
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Def worth checking it out.

Lol Nick E, the perils of working in the industry eh? I'll buy the Epic when you get bored of it in a few months.

Talking of which, I need a pit bitch and sponsor for my new racing team 'Team Reynolds'. I thought a bright orange kit would do the job... Got any words of advice Nick?

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Nick Evans
23/11/09 13:43
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I'll bite my tongue Mark...

I have embellished that a bit, I have a 2010 warranty replacement frame for my Epic, which I am selling (have sold now actually!).

I also have the Top Fuel as my 2010 bike, which I would like to use, but at £300 for an XX cassette, I'm not wild keen on wearing out prematurely. That and a 20lb FS bike is a total waste of time at the moment in all the crap! Once it's all specced up properly I'll put photos on so the ego massaging can begin. So yes DP, in essence, I don't want to get it muddy!

Anyway, this thread wasn't supposed to be about me, as much as I love the attention!

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Monkey Space Pilot (El Capitan)
23/11/09 13:45
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I take it you will be putting the photo's up on another site if you expect any ego massaging to happen.
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Nick Evans
23/11/09 14:42
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Yes yes, I'm well aware that you fine gents are all far too manly to engage in ego massaging. I'll go elsewhere for that!
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Mark.Reynolds
23/11/09 15:41
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Facebook?
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Monkey Space Pilot (El Capitan)
23/11/09 15:45
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If you realy want your bike to look its best I could recommend a professional photographer to take the pics. Now whats his name Ti.......
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