hi all me and my wife have just bought a pair of dawes edge fs team bikes (i know i know matching bikes!) having ridden bikes equipped with disc brakes we are going to upgrade, i was thinking of upgrading hers to deore hydraulic (£100 fitted) and mine to mono m4's (£210 fitted) what i would like advice on is wether i would be just as good with the deores on my bike or should i go for the m4's? having browsed the web looking at other peoples reviews of the m4's they sound good but are they worth the extra £100?

Nothing like giving the wife the cheapo option eh? ;-)

Personally, and just my opinion mind. Shimano make far superior disc brakes to Hope

'runs for cover'

unless you have money to burn buy either shimano lx or xt brakes.

more reliable
better looking (IMO)
much cheaper

hope an an excellent warranty back up service for a reason

We haven't done this for a while. Type Hope, Hayes, Formula etc into the search above to get an idea of reliability and try as many as you can to decide which ones you like the feel of.

I'm an ex-Hope owner currently on Hayes that has also tried and liked Formula and Shimano offerings but not Maguras.

The wife gets better stuff than me - she wins which justifies the expense. She just said "go on buy it" when I showed her my latest dream bike :)

can i fit xt disc brakes? my hubs only have the 6 bolt fitment for the discs.

You can run the 6 bolt RT75 XT rotor in place of the splined RT96 XTR one

duh

I meant in place of the splined RT77 XT rotor

i mite go for that then, what price am i lookinh at for the xt/lx disc brakes, is the xt worth the extra money? theres a set of lx disc brake with dual control levers on ebay at the moment!

retail on LX is £50 per brake and £75 for a pair of levers (which include hoses/mineral oil etc), XT is £65 per brake and £90 for levers.

If you buy XT you'll also need 6 bolt rotors (£20ea) but LX has a 6 bolt option out of the box.

XT are a one piece caliper, so they're stiffer and offer better braking and modulation.(think Mono mini vs normal Mini). They're also lighter, a bit. I don't really think it's worth it. XTR however, are MUCH prettier and lighter. (£80 per brake, £275 for dual control levers) :-)

what i dont want to do is buy a set of brakes and then have to upgrade them again in the future.

have a look on merlin at teh stuff, where they give you the option to change the rotors...

...or is it crc

either way, i wouldn't buy of ebay, some people swear by it, but i hate it

But that wouldn't be playing the advertising executives game Peter ;-)

how can you hate ebay its the only place i buy off never had any problems and have saved a shedload of money! + if your buying new theres no problem.

deore lx disc brakes without rotors, £70 delivered, imported from asia.

ebay... its the future!

chainreaction have got what you need

the lx's or xt's in normal lever, and dual control

with teh option of what rotor, and what mounting stuff....

you might not have a problem with the buying, say theres a leak with the brakes, what would you do?

im liking the look of xt dual control, i also see xt 4 pot calipers but is that the price for just the calipers or the levers as well?

it is including the levers

also with a 6 bolt rotor

it's the old style xt, though i would have thought it would be a bit more powerful, with the 4 pistons

the way i ride, i don't use my rear anywhere near as much as my front, so i could get away with a cheaper brake, it depends how you ride, especially as a good rear brake would just lock up all teh time

so i would get 2 of these;
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Kits.aspx?ModelID=7911

and 2 of these;
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Kits.aspx?ModelID=7904

thats you and teh wife for little more than 2 hopes

can someone shed some light on whether crc assemble the brakes and bleed them?

also, you should be able to buy multi packs of pads for cheaper

The ratio between master cylinder piston and caliper piston surface areas, rotor size, pad composition and brake lever mechanical ratio influence perceived power.

The Shimano four pots have a smaller leading piston to balance the twisting force on the pad caused by disc rotation. Four pots should therfore be less grabby than single piston designs like my Hayes but no more powerful if all the other factors above are constant.

.....amazed at john's random knowledge.....