Thanks for all the advice, and i am now the proud owner of a nice new bike. I would like to point out that it is well worth looking at your local shop. I got a great deal and the staff were polite and knew there bikes. So if any one is around Swindon/Wiltshire call into Mitchells cycles, you will not be disapointed. The internet and big stores, with there not so big discounts are not always best..........

Got my cindercone from a local dealer as well, Bikehut at Poole. End of season bagran at £535, threw in a pair of DMR V8s and a 20% discount on any accessories that I bought at the same time. Really helpfull staff and I knew the bike was set up properly and had a free service to check it out which you don't get with mail order.

Was just about to say I'd NEVER buy a bike off t'internet.......................ah!, er yes, the Inbred........*coughs*......* gets coat*