Which do you think is best the new XTR shifters and rear mech or the latest Sram XO shifters and rear mech.I know you can use the new XTR shifters the same way you can use the Srams but what do you think.I know the Sram stuff is quite a bit dearer(unless someone knows where there's a good deal to be had on them)but is it worth it?

I think these make the SRAM look a bit ordinary. The XTR group is also lighter.

Hands down XTR, it's days and nights better than X.0 IMO.

Got 2 sets of XO and can't fault it. Have only tried the new '07 XTR on a demo, and it agree it looks the business. Switched to XO beginning of last year after a dismal time with the last version of XTR (low normal) mech and shifters. Personally, not sure I'd say hands down, the feel is different, and that can be something of a personal thing. I enjoy the positive feel of my XO and it just has never given me any trouble once I've got it dialled in (which is more than I can say for the old XTR). It uses a 1:1 actuation ration, so has to pull the cable less to do the same job as Shimano 2:1, which may mean it is a little more resilient to muddy conditions and crap in the cable inner.

Wouldn't rule out giving the new XTR a spin in the future though...

Chain reaction have a reasonable deal on XO, and the shifters feature a new improved barrel adjuster compared to '06.

And XTR imo, too.

I'm running low normal with the shifters Mike linked to, not as Mr Shimano recommends but I prefer it that way. :)

Same here sprökitt.

Errrrr Chrome looking crap no thanks.


And there just gears it don't matter.

Those XTR pods are well smart Mike. Got to get me some of those!

I just found X.0 didn't shift as crisply, and I constantly knocked it with my thumb, go stamping on the pedals out of a corner and I'd find it'd shifted from the big ring to the granny, so so so annoying!

The XTR shifts flawlessly every time, I use a top normal mech, and it's much lighter action than the X.0.

They're my favourite part of the 07 XTR Kato.

the new xtr shifter are amazing!

they just feel so good, and you can use them as if they were sram shifters, doing up & downshifts with your thumb!

Dem XTR podz luk wikd innit...

....better go with the XTR then Mark....

I have those pods as well and they are very nice indeed.

And there just gears it don't matter

Utter pikey bollocks. The difference between 2007 XTR and the lower model shifters is very noticable and they have features the lower spec shifters do not.

Mark... It's dylan!

Exactly, thats why I chose the word "pikey".

Don't fall for the bait HRP.

My preferred phrase is 'bikey pikey' HRP.

Oh and while you're around HRP, any idea why the 24t granny XTR cranks aren't being brought in by Madison?

I love the phrase "bin licking pikey bastard" personally.

I guess the official line would be lack of demand Mike.

HRP, still the least important part of your bike riding wise and the 1 everyone obsesses about, strange world.