cheers mike, they are nice and stiff and also very quiet which is a big change from the pro 2's I had on my old bike!!

Even with big 2.4 Conti Mountain Kings and tubes in , they weigh less than my mates tubeless 2.2 Bontager Race lites with Bontrager Jones tubeless tires on, much to his chagrin!!! 

All in all I am overjoyed with the bike, it is the first one I was truly excited to own, still a couple of shiny bits I would like to add but that will have to wait!!

why thank you for your kind words dowse (BTW...it is !!)

I really must do some more riding on the NY Moors, need to either

a- get myself a decent GPS

or

b- sort out some guided rides with the locals

or

c- find a decent map and try to remember how to map read!