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Shimano Deore XT revealed: Part 2

Chainset, brakes, hubs, pedals and wheels from the 25th anniversary XT group


Posted: 2 May 2007
by Mike Davis

Having got you up to speed with the new Deore XT transmission components, here's the rest of it.

Brakes

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Shimano's Servo Wave system was introduced for cable brakes many years ago, but the new Deore XT marks the first appearance of the design on a hydraulic disc brake. The idea is pretty simple. With the usual linear relationship between lever movement and pad movement, you have to strike a compromise between pad clearance and power. You've only got so much lever travel to play with (limited by your ability to reach the lever at one end and the lever hitting the bars at the other). Using lots of lever travel to move the pads a very small distance gives heaps of power, but limits pad clearance. Boost the pad clearance and the pads have to travel further to reach the rotor, limiting power. Servo Wave introduces variable leverage into the lever, so the first part of the lever travel moves the pads quickly until they hit the rotor before "gearing down" to increase the power. In this way you get a claimed 20% extra brake power but without having the pads running really close to the rotor all the time.

Servo Wave will be found on both the standalone XT disc levers and the Dual Control units. The levers also feature tool-free reach adjustment and adjustable "free stroke" - the amount of lever pull that doesn't actually do anything. This effectively alters the position of the lever when the pads engage.

The XT calipers follow the now-familiar sleek Shimano style, with two opposing pistons in a one-piece forged caliper body. Resin and sintered pads will be available (although we don't know which will be supplied as standard) with the lifespan of the resin pads said to have been improved by at least 100%. Someone will be along shortly to suggest that that'll mean you'll now manage two wet rides in Wales, no doubt. The Centerlock rotors will be available in 160, 180 or 203mm sizes.

Lightweight fanatics will be reassured to hear that V-brakes and cable brakes will be available too.

Chainset, hubs and pedals

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XT's existing Hollowtech II chainset has proved to be a popular option, but most riders have found that the alloy chainrings (particularly the middle one) don't last all that well. To improve durability without adding weight, Shimano has borrowed the chainring technology from XTR. While the flagship group has a composite/titanium middle ring, XT gets a composite/steel one - comparable in weight to aluminium, but said to last twice as long.

The non-drive-side crank sticks with the twin opposing pinch bolts to hold it on, rather than the single bolt into the axle that the current XTR uses. Two versions will be available, one with 44/32/22 tooth rings for MTB use and a "Trekking" version with 48/36/26.

Shimano adds to its growing range of 20mm through-axle front hubs with XT's HB-M776 unit with Centerlock rotor mount. The rest of the hub range is now lighter (50g a pair compared to the current models) with options including Centerlock or non-disc, black or silver and 32 or 36 spoke holes. The freehub bodies on the rear hubs are steel and share the quick engagement mechanism from XTR. There's also an internal grease sleeve to help to maintain proper lubrication levels.

One option that we don't see is six-bolt rotor mounts, although Shimano is now making adaptors to allow you to fit six-bolt rotors to Centerlock hubs.

The XT pedals use the familiar mud-shedding design seen on plenty of SPDs, but finished in black and with a Deore XT logo.

Wheels

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Shimano has been expanding its range of wheels considerably over the last few years, and the new XT will have three wheel systems to its name. The most interesting is the WH-M776 XT All Mountain wheelset, with a 20mm through-axle hub in the front wheel, standard 135mm QR at the rear, 24 plain-gauge 2.0mm spokes both ends and 28mm wide, UST-compatible rims. Both hubs have Centerlock disc mounts. Overall weight is claimed to be 2,050g.

There's also the M775 XC wheelset for disc brakes, with butted 2.0-1.8-2.0mm stainless spokes and 23mm UST-ready rims. As with the separate XT hubs, the wheelset freehubs use XTR's quick engagement mechanism for faster pickup, and there's an internal grease sleeve for enhanced lubrication. The XC wheels are 1,680g/pair. You can save an extra 10g (steady, now...) with the M770 XC V-brake wheelset - no Centerlock, 20 spokes in the front and rims with braking surfaces.


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Mmmmmmmmm black calipers.
Posted: 02/05/2007 12:33

I like the look of the chainset
Posted: 02/05/2007 12:36

I wonder if the all mountain wheelset will have an adaptor to run a standard quick release on the front - for upgrading later on to 20mm forks if you dont already have them...
Posted: 02/05/2007 13:06

Impressed by what the brakes say they do if that is case then it's a very nice feature. (do other brake systems have this fast then slow movement?)


Posted: 02/05/2007 13:17

Nice levers!

again
Posted: 02/05/2007 15:17

The servo-wave thing is the only thing that really excites me about the whole XT relaunch TBH, I often get pissed off with 'zinging' when the rotors are passing too close to the pad.

That said, I don't think XT is meant to be exciting, it's meant to be functional.
Posted: 02/05/2007 16:26

XTR excites you then ?
Posted: 02/05/2007 16:28

Also like the idea of the Lever, will see if it works well in use though ofcourse, Guess it won't be available to september +

Likely the Sales guys are hyping it and the R&D guys are having nitemares trying to make it a reality :)


Posted: 02/05/2007 20:25

Steel teeth on the middle ring. Who says Shimano build in obsolescence? I think a fair few of those bits will be on my bike before long. Shimano look to be back on the right track.
Posted: 02/05/2007 20:42

Just steel and skip that carbon fibre spider crap, all that cost for 12grams or something, sadness.



Posted: 02/05/2007 20:49

For once Dyl, I agree with you.
Posted: 02/05/2007 20:53

#passes Dylan and 4AM another pizza#
Posted: 02/05/2007 20:54

Oi! whoever cut's it let's the other take the biggest half.
Posted: 02/05/2007 20:57

I had pizza tonight :) in exchange for a £240 graphics card 12months back, but hey pizza.


Posted: 02/05/2007 23:42

Will them XT rings be able to fit to my 2006 XT chainset? TBH if they arent a reasonable cost dylan has a point about all steel. Deore rings must be the most sensible thing dylan ever mentions ;-)

Am i the only one that only ever really pays attention to the asthetics of the chainset. The gears & brakes can look as fugly as it wants but the chainset is the one i always take notice of. IMO its not a good looker this time, but then i dont think the XTR one is either. As long as the gears & brakes work that matters more than what they look like.
Posted: 03/05/2007 09:43

Oh and can i have the leftover pizza please :-)
Posted: 03/05/2007 09:47

I like em' but I only fitted a new (oldstyle) XT chainset this week so I won't be getting one for a while....
Posted: 03/05/2007 09:50

I also like the flippy levers.
Posted: 03/05/2007 09:50

Am i the only one that only ever really pays attention to the asthetics of the chainset.
i do in fact i commented i liked the chainset in the second post on this thread :)
Posted: 03/05/2007 12:23

I think the chainset looks 'flat'. A bit retro, but not retro enough to be retro.
Posted: 03/05/2007 12:25

Left over Pizza LOL as if.


I bet they could get the same weight saving, with plain steel and drilling lots of holes in it.

My entire bike is entirely based on functionality rather than how it looks.
Posted: 03/05/2007 12:44

My entire bike is entirely based on functionality

I don't call running worn out parts "functional".
Posted: 03/05/2007 12:52

HRP are the rings gonna a)Fit 2006 XT HTII and b) Reasonable price?
Posted: 03/05/2007 12:53

I am trying to find that out at the moment. Prices aren't confirmed but I will let you know about retro compatibilty as soon as I know.
Posted: 03/05/2007 13:01

Tah :-)

Are they using the same BB as the 2006 or has it had some mods? If its essentially the same fitting system it may have been an oppertunity to put a better sealing in the BB
Posted: 03/05/2007 13:04

Again I don't have much detail on the BB. In all honesty all I have seen is the same press release as you guys. The Shimano product office is in a different building to me so I can't just sneak a peek at it.

But I am trying...
Posted: 03/05/2007 13:06

I bet £30+ for the middle XT Carbon ring.


Posted: 03/05/2007 13:15

let us know what the rrp on the hydro levers will be if you get the chance to find out Mark

ta
Posted: 03/05/2007 16:19

Right the answer on the rings being retro fitable is - we don't know yet. Its supposed to be a 104 BCD like other Shimano chainsets but as we have seen with current XT and LX that doesn't mean that the rings are interchangeable as the flanges differ. So until we actually get our hands on some and have a play about then the jury is still out.
Posted: 03/05/2007 16:29

Not keen on the look of the chainset, but it may be a different story in the flesh.

Shadow rear mechs are making tingly in nice places though...

:-)

Looks like a very nice, well thought out and functional bit of kit.
Posted: 04/05/2007 15:39

I wonder if the bearings are shit in those wheelsets like in any other XT hubs that I've had have been.....


If they're not I'd be very interested in a pair possibly!
Posted: 05/05/2007 11:36

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