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Can't get your full-susser working right? Here's a basic set-up to get you going


Posted: 24 February 2003
by Mike Davis

Once upon a time mountain bikes were simple devices. Chuck suspension into the mix, though, and things get more complicated. A lot of people don't get on with their full-suspension bikes, and sometimes that's simply because they're not set up right. But fear not, it's not a black art... We've covered front suspension before, and here we're running through rear shocks.

As with so many things, suspension set-up is often a compromise. You've got quite a few conflicting requirements - you want suspension that'll soak up small bumps without being overfaced on big ones, supple but not mushy, controlled but active. But with a few minutes' effort you can get most of the way there.

There are no hard and fast rules for suspension set-up. What works for one combination of bike, rider and trails won't necessarily work for the rest. Different manufacturers have different ideas about the best approach. Riders like different things. What we'll give you here is a brief guide to getting to a good basic set-up that'll give you the confidence to tune things more closely to your preference. If you know you can get back to something that works, there's no harm in trying to improve it...

First off, here's the bits of the shock that we're interested in:

shock_anatomy (10K)

This is a coil shock - you may have an air shock, which is fundamentally the same except that it uses air instead of a steel coil spring.

Setting sag

Like forks, most full suspension designs are intended to run with some sag. That is, when you're riding along a smooth surface the suspension is slightly compressed. This allows the wheels to drop into hollows in the trail, keeping the tyres in contact with the ground and improving traction and control. Sag is controlled by spring rate. The harder the spring, the less sag you'll have. Different bikes and riding styles favour different amounts of sag, but somewhere between a quarter and a third of the available travel is usual. Less sag gives a tauter, faster feel, more sag is plusher but can be more wallowy.

The best way to measure sag is by measuring vertically from the ground to a fixed point on the bike like the underneath of the saddle or something. You can measure it at the shock too, but there isn't necessarily a linear relationship between wheel travel and shock travel so it might be slightly out. It's easier to measure at the shock, though - you really need two people to measure from seat to ground.

First you need to work out your target sag. You need to know the total travel of your bike. If you've got 100mm of travel and you want 25% sag, that's 25mm of compression under your weight. Measure from seat to ground with you off the bike, then get on it and measure it again. The second measurement should be 25mm (or whatever figure you came up with) less than the first. If it's sagging too much, tighten the preload collar or if you have an air shock, add some more air. If it's not sagging enough, undo the preload collar or release some air. Repeat until you hit the mark.

If you're a lot lighter or heavier than average and have a coil shock, you may find that you can't get the sag right by just twiddling the preload collar. If that's the case you may need to swap the spring for a lighter or heavier one. Air shocks don't have this problem.

Rebound damping

With the sag set correctly, turn your attention to the damping. Rebound damping is what stops the suspension just bouncing uncontrollably when you hit a bump, but it has to be adjusted correctly - too much rebound damping and the shock won't extend fast enough to absorb successive bumps, leading to a phenomemon known as "packing down" where the shock gets more compressed by each bump until it runs out of travel.

To start, turn the rebound adjuster (often a red dial, sometimes labelled R) anti-clockwise as far as it'll go. If you've got a compression damping adjuster (often blue) do the same with that. This is fully open, that is, minimum damping and a fast shock action. Roll along a smooth surface (a road will be fine), stand up and give the suspension a bounce. Just stand up straight and then quickly push down on bars and pedals. The suspension should compress, re-extend slightly beyond the "resting" position and then settle back to where it started. Turn the rebound adjuster clockwise a click at a time until it behaves like this.

Once it feels good, go for an off-road ride and pay attention to how the rear end's acting. If it feels too bouncy and tends to get out of control or feel like it's pitching you over the front on bigger hits, add more rebound damping. If it packs down over successive bumps, reduce the rebound damping. Eventually you'll find a setting you're happy with. Make a note of where it is (count the clicks to fully open).

Compression damping

Most shocks don't have adjustable compression damping. If yours does, leave it fully open unless you find yourself bottoming the suspension out even though the spring rate's correct.

Go forth and fiddle

That should give you a pretty respectably performing rear suspension. From there it's a question of tweaking things to suit your own trails and riding style. If you like a fast, tight-feeling bike, run less sag. If you're into big drops, run more rebound damping. Just make a note of your basic settings, fiddle around, learn what's what and if it all goes wrong you've got something to fall back on...


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Dear All, What are your thoughts on air versus coil rear shocks. I have a Fox Float RL from a Specialized Enduro and it does the job but I run the pressure quite high (210 psi) to keep a tight hardtail style bike. Consequently I am dubious of the longevity of the shock, 10 months and counting, Mojo in Wales want £70 for a full rebuild but for that I am close to buying a whole new shock. Any thoughts on swapping to an oil damped coil shock?????
Posted: 24/02/2003 18:06

Don't do it, dude- I ran a Vanilla R on my 2002 Enduro Expert for a few weeks while my Float was being flaky, and while it made it a better Alpine downhiller, it didn't like flats at all, let alone climbing. Shouldn't MoJo still repair your shock under warranty anyhow? Let them do that and rebuild yourself- its not too bad, really. mbc
Posted: 24/02/2003 20:52

Go with the coil-over!!! No worries about blowing seals, or dirt destroying them either and no pumping them up. Put simply, they are far less hassle and depending on who you ask, they give superior performance. BTW I agree with the last statement! So much so, I have coil-overs on the front and rear of my Whyte, and every full susser that's not an XC jeyboy and still worth it's salt has a coil-over. I ran a coil-over for four years on my last bike and never had to maintain it. Not a penny spent on it and thousands miles on several continents later it still worked perfectly - and the fact that I was able to sell it after all this is testament to their indestructability. Still wondering????
Posted: 24/02/2003 20:57

Thanks to both of you for your advice, jury's still out though. I'll blow the Float to pieces first. Then think about it afterwards. By the way Gav which coil over did you use????
Posted: 24/02/2003 21:05

Dan, 70 quid really isn't all that near to the price of a new shock. Not one that's as good as the one you've got, anyway. I wouldn't change it unless it goes pop. Get it serviced regularly (or whenever it starts getting really bouncy or makes funny noises) and it'll last for years.
Posted: 24/02/2003 22:44

And remember some frames are designed for air shocks some for coil over, you put a coil over on a frame designed for an air shock and unless its a fifth element or something equally trick the different rising rate is going to make a real mess of the performance.
Posted: 24/02/2003 23:28

If your running it at 210 you might as well go for a hard tail and be done with it as you are getting little or no suspension out of it?
Posted: 25/02/2003 07:09

Steve - it totally depends on his weight.
Posted: 25/02/2003 09:16

I'm running Vanilla R's front and rear now, but had a Shockworks before. Despite the fact it's not one of the "premium brand" shocks, it performed faultlessly and so far the Vanilla R's have been spot on. Russ - I disagree about the frames designed for different shocks - any properly set up shock will work with any frame. The fact whether its a coil-over or an air shock is neither-here-nor-there.
Posted: 25/02/2003 09:17

Some frames (shock positions) are designed to utilise (counteract) the rising rate of air shocks to provide a more linear rate which means that if you put a coil over on the shock will blow through the end of it's travel very quickly which is not good. It's a fact and it is here or there I'm afraid. It's the reason that Santa Cruz specifically advise against using a coil over on the SL. Of course a really trick shock like a fifth element can be set up differently to take account of this and some coil overs can be bought with progressively wound springs (but most dont come that way as standard) so the problem can be got over. Yes the standard linearly wound coil over shock may work but it won't work nearly as well - the difference on moving from a linear standard spring to a progressively wound aftermarket one on my old Marin was marked. Only really a problem on frames specifically designed for air shocks but the problem does exist and no amount of fiddling with damping circuits can make up for a spring with the wrong rising rate for the design of the bike.
Posted: 25/02/2003 10:19

I have a rising rate coil-over.......... it has a progressive spring. And it came as standard (from Whyte, not Fox before you ask - Fox had no idea about the availability of a progressive shock, which kinda surprised me!) You are right about a linear shock being bad on a frame designed for rising rate shocks, but in the case of coil-overs this can be accomodated by changing the spring type. Sure it may cost £40 or so, but a service on an air shock is about £60-70 is it not, and you will save this every year by switching to a coil-over....
Posted: 25/02/2003 10:24

But you don't need a full £70 service on a air shock every year - cleaning out and regreasing the air chamber is a do it at home job. The service intervals on air or coil over shocks should roughly be the same (baring an air seal needing to be replaced) as it's the nitrogen charged damping circuit that goes which is roughly similar in both types of shock. Certainly the coil over on my old bike didn't last any longer before needing a service than the air on on my current bike. (about 2 years in both cases which Tim Flooks reckoned was about right this time for the air shock). It's a horses for courses sort of thing though - I've heard lots of people say that the Whyte is better with coil overs (even though it was designed for air), however your point about fox not knowing about progressive spring availability kinda reinforces my point. Jon Whyte obviously has this sussed but I suspect it's unlikely that the bigger manufacturers do - or even care, if Fox don't supply it they're not interested. I'd class your shock with it's aftermarket spring as 'something equally trick' in which case I think we're pretty much in agreement ?
Posted: 25/02/2003 11:17

Yep - agreement agreed upon! Although........ My mates experiences of all things air suspended (shocks and forks) need them serviced on average once a year (more if they're over 18months old). And seals have blown on planes / at altitude..... and you have to take a shock pump with you to check / adjust the pressure ...... I just won't touch them with a barge pole ...... which provides me with a topic I'm happy ranting about....... and like all good rants it's not worth listening to beyond the first couple of posts!!!!
Posted: 25/02/2003 11:24

Dan. I have run 210 - 230 in my float RLC on my Enduro for over a year now with no problems. The max is quoted at 300 psi so your still well within that. Surely the internal shock pressure rises far above that when the shock is compressed. The only bit that has needed replacement is the bushing where the shock mounts on the upper bar. The servicing of the float is far easier than I initially thought unless the damping circuit goes and I do it myself every few months. Fox back up & info from Chris at Mojo is also excellent IMHO. With the Enduro the shock is very exposed to the mud kicked up from the rear wheel a good idea would be some kind of shield to prevent this. As far as I know the Vanilla works OK on this frame. I know someone who gives his Enduro some serious abuse and has fitted this shock, although for XC I'll stick with the Float. Hope this helps. Tony
Posted: 25/02/2003 13:01

Guys, I'll just bite the bullet and get it professionally serviced now and again. What the hell the bike cost enough to start with. £70 a year for a slap up tune is not too much to ask. Thanks again for all the advice. Dan ;-)
Posted: 25/02/2003 17:55

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